1969 164 2.9 engine

Harvey1963 · Apr 15th, 2017, 11:17

Please excuse my ignorance but can someone confirm if this engine has a timing belt or chain?

Clan · Apr 15th, 2017, 11:35

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Originally Posted by Harvey1963

Please excuse my ignorance but can someone confirm if this engine has a timing belt or chain?

Neither , it has two gear wheels ! :-)

Triple-S · Apr 15th, 2017, 12:21

Confirm Clan is correct: all earlier genuine (ie not of Daf origin) engines had two gears, whether it be the PV range, the Amazon range, 140s, 164s and P1800s. They went to belts with the first 240s.
If needing to rebuild an engine of this range I'm not sure if they are all of the same diameter and number of teeth - they MAY be interchangeable but check up first.

P

Clan · Apr 15th, 2017, 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple-S

Confirm Clan is correct: all earlier genuine (ie not of Daf origin) engines had two gears, whether it be the PV range, the Amazon range, 140s, 164s and P1800s. They went to belts with the first 240s.
If needing to rebuild an engine of this range I'm not sure if they are all of the same diameter and number of teeth - they MAY be interchangeable but check up first.

P

all interchangable but the 164 E had steel gears , last forever but more noisy , The original cam gear was fibre so could wear/break after high mileage . Last i heard you could only get steel gears .

classicswede · Apr 15th, 2017, 13:37

You can get fiber, alloy and steel gears

friffies · Apr 16th, 2017, 15:52

HI All

If you fit the steel ones you have to slightly widen oil port in the timing case cover this will help with the noise unless you get an engine with steel and take out this oil pipe as well I was told this by a Volvo engineer when I first did it.

Malcolm

Derek UK · Apr 16th, 2017, 20:34

With steel gears you have to change both wheels, big on the cam and small on the crank. Meshing angles different on the fibre large/steel small gear.

Apr 15th, 2017, 11:17	#1
Harvey1963 Member Last Online: Dec 15th, 2023 15:35 Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Montrose	1969 164 2.9 engine Please excuse my ignorance but can someone confirm if this engine has a timing belt or chain?

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classicswede Trader Volvo in my veins Last Online: Yesterday 18:07 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Anglesey	You can get fiber, alloy and steel gears __________________ http://www.classicswede.org www.classicswede.co.uk

Apr 16th, 2017, 15:52	#6
friffies Junior Member Last Online: Apr 11th, 2024 06:42 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Norwich	Steel gears HI All If you fit the steel ones you have to slightly widen oil port in the timing case cover this will help with the noise unless you get an engine with steel and take out this oil pipe as well I was told this by a Volvo engineer when I first did it. Malcolm

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Apr 15th, 2017, 12:21	#3
Triple-S How Old? Last Online: May 31st, 2021 12:28 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: redhill	Confirm Clan is correct: all earlier genuine (ie not of Daf origin) engines had two gears, whether it be the PV range, the Amazon range, 140s, 164s and P1800s. They went to belts with the first 240s. If needing to rebuild an engine of this range I'm not sure if they are all of the same diameter and number of teeth - they MAY be interchangeable but check up first. P

Apr 16th, 2017, 20:34	#7
Derek UK VOC Member Last Online: Yesterday 17:06 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chatham	With steel gears you have to change both wheels, big on the cam and small on the crank. Meshing angles different on the fibre large/steel small gear.

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