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Swapping tyres...cross climates and summer tyres

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Old Sep 20th, 2019, 15:05   #31
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I think you made a very good decision by replacing all 4 by the same tyres
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Out of interest I enquired about a set of winter wheels for my XC40 from Volvo....18 inch R design wheels with the cheapest winter tyres on.....£2781 (not fitted!!!!!)

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My current car was delivered in December- so I asked for it to be delivered on winter tires (with me paying the difference, ofcourse..) but the local dealer told me that Volvo charges so much for the factory-optioned winter tires that it doesn't make any sense ordering them with the car. They talked me out of it- so I ended up ordering the tires (and aftermarket wheels..) elsewhere.
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Old Sep 20th, 2019, 21:04   #33
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My current car was delivered in December- so I asked for it to be delivered on winter tires (with me paying the difference, ofcourse..) but the local dealer told me that Volvo charges so much for the factory-optioned winter tires that it doesn't make any sense ordering them with the car. They talked me out of it- so I ended up ordering the tires (and aftermarket wheels..) elsewhere.
My take on it is they are not seriously interested in selling winter wheels and tyres in the UK. At £700 per wheel I can’t see anyone buying a second set for the xc40.
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Old Sep 20th, 2019, 21:17   #34
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My take on it is they are not seriously interested in selling winter wheels and tyres in the UK. At £700 per wheel I can’t see anyone buying a second set for the xc40.
You might be surprised. Last autumn/winter Volvo were selling a complete set of Nokian-shod rims for the current XC60 for circa £1300. Grabbed a set for myself at the time - way cheaper than buying rims and tyres separately. I don't see a similar offer on the website at the moment but perhaps they'll reappear when 'tis the season.

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Old Sep 22nd, 2019, 22:21   #35
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Don’t get me wrong, I get why you, and others on the forum change winters for summers, and vice versa, I really do. I will be swapping to CrossClimates as soon as I’ve worn out the stock tyres, and I’ll put four on each corner (in respect of the OP).
But winter is only 12 weeks away. My V90 awd is just over 12 months old, the oem tyres have driven almost 20k and look like they’ll do another 20k. New rules in France mean that when I drive to the alps I’ll need tyres rated for snow. So, do I opt for 4 nokian’s (on each corner ) and switch back & forth to the Pirelli’s until P’s are gone or go straight to crossclimates, keeping the Pirelli’s for when the crossclimates are done by which point I’ll be on the next motor anyway.
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But winter is only 12 weeks away. My V90 awd is just over 12 months old, the oem tyres have driven almost 20k and look like they’ll do another 20k. New rules in France mean that when I drive to the alps I’ll need tyres rated for snow. So, do I opt for 4 nokian’s (on each corner ) and switch back & forth to the Pirelli’s until P’s are gone or go straight to crossclimates, keeping the Pirelli’s for when the crossclimates are done by which point I’ll be on the next motor anyway.

I bought a second set of alloy wheels with winter tyres a couple of months ago for alps trips.
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I have only had my car a few weeks and, whilst, the Scorpion Verde 235/55/19s are great now I know that I will want something more for the Scottish rural winter. Any tips on which winter tyres I should be looking at? Thanks
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Old Oct 7th, 2019, 20:46   #38
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So out of interest then, unless I've missed it in this thread...

My V90 came with Cross Climates on the front, they look pretty new and the car had 31k when I bought it, so I'm guessing they probably were fairly new! I've always had a matching 4 set of winter tyres, but in this instance I've bought a pair of Goodyear Performance + winters, which I intend to put on the front, and shift the CCs to the rear... how badly can I expect that to shaft the handling?
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Itll be odd! The winter axle will be drifty in the dry, the cc axle drifty in the snow.
You would be better fitting the winter to the rear, it will prevent the car spinning going downhill on snow/ice but you will be astonished how competent the CC are.
Always fit the least grippy tyres to the front so you can sense loss of adhesion through the steering wheel before the rear loses it.
If you are a competent, accomplished driver, youll know whats going off regardless, but one can only ever advise in regard to safety.
(I used to have all season tyres on rear of my car and swap winter/summer on front, but it isnt adviseable to anyone else. It worked for me as it altered the handling positively by making the rear have more movement, given that the car had a strong understeer tendency, yet the all season was better in snow than the winters to the point I couldn't break it loose with handbrake... Anyway, I digress...)
So in short, CC on front, winter on back, will be great in snow and the safe option, yet you'd have to drive bloody hard to lose the back in the dry, youll just get more oversteer in general.
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Old Oct 8th, 2019, 23:27   #40
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That's what I thought. I was never really sold on the Cross Climates anyway, but they were on the car. I bit the bullet and bought a second set of matching winters. So I've got four (brand new) Goodyear Ultra Grip Performance + on their way to me. They won the 2019 Auto Express tests for winter tyres, so I've got high hopes.

I've always had a matching set of 4 winters on every car I'd had, minus my old Merc A Class (which was abysmal in the slightest flurry that stuck!), so it makes sense to do it with this. Just seemed a bit of a shame to let the Cross Climate's go to waste. Come spring, I'll be buying another pair of Michelin Primacy to match the rears!
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