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Old Feb 6th, 2008, 19:17   #21
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made with other engines !?!?!?!?
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made with other engines !?!?!?!?
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Roy,
Thanks for your help. Do you know anyway of quickly identifying the engine? I'm planning to view the car this Saturday, so obviously if I can spot its a Renault engine then I can avoid it. I'm also interested in which diesel engine is the best in the pre-2004 S40. Any further information that you could give would be great...
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The diesel engines in the S/V40 are Renault Based and in the S/V40 are very reliable , the later the better though i wouldnt get the old generation one up to 2000

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The best ones are the T3 and T4 which can average 55 mpg and go quite well .
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Thanks for your help. Do you know anyway of quickly identifying the engine? I'm planning to view the car this Saturday, so obviously if I can spot its a Renault engine then I can avoid it. I'm also interested in which diesel engine is the best in the pre-2004 S40. Any further information that you could give would be great...
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The only diesel that Volvo use for that model is Renault sourced.

I was thinking of the 2 litre petrol Volvo engine as being the best option for that car if you particully like it. If you want a diesel, personally I'd choose a Volvo with an engine made by Volvo or the Audi/VW group. There's a big choice of diesel models (but not the V40 I'm afraid) with your kind of budget.

Might be worth posting on the 400 series web site and finding out what the owner think. Clan has a different view though to my diesel specialist who encounter a lot of problems with them. I don't have any experience myself so I'm only giving you second hand information I'm afraid.

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The only diesel that Volvo use for that model is Renault sourced.

I was thinking of the 2 litre petrol Volvo engine as being the best option for that car if you particully like it. If you want a diesel, personally I'd choose a Volvo with an engine made by Volvo or the Audi/VW group. There's a big choice of diesel models (but not the V40 I'm afraid) with your kind of budget.

Might be worth posting on the 400 series web site and finding out what the owner think. Clan has a different view though to my diesel specialist who encounter a lot of problems with them. I don't have any experience myself so I'm only giving you second hand information I'm afraid.

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I would say the T4 is the nicest engine to drive not due to the power but the drivability and economy , on a certain journey of mine i cant get more than 34 mpg out of a 2 litre yet a T4 will do 38 mpg . so nothing lost at all and lots to gain ..

Regarding Diesel reliability , there are an awful lot of badly neglected pre 2000 S/V40's out there now most still going fine of course but inevitably there may be some finding their way to diesel "specialists" instead of main dealers when bodged by the back street garage .
The only problems are occasional turbo hoses bursting and coolant leaks when they changed the thermostat housing to plastic before reverting to alluminium again .. Once overheated this is going to lead to problems of course .
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I would say the T4 is the nicest engine to drive not due to the power but the drivability and economy , on a certain journey of mine i cant get more than 34 mpg out of a 2 litre yet a T4 will do 38 mpg . so nothing lost at all and lots to gain ..

Regarding Diesel reliability , there are an awful lot of badly neglected pre 2000 S/V40's out there now most still going fine of course but inevitably there may be some finding their way to diesel "specialists" instead of main dealers when bodged by the back street garage .
The only problems are occasional turbo hoses bursting and coolant leaks when they changed the thermostat housing to plastic before reverting to alluminium again .. Once overheated this is going to lead to problems of course .
Thanks for that Clan....I didn't realise you had one. What kind of mileage are people putting on the best of the diesel engines?

I must confess to being a bit predudiced against Renault having bought a new one in my pre Volvo days and been less than happy with the aftersales disservice.

Your right that my diesel specialist is only going to see problem engines. In the early days of diesel for Volvo my main dealer used to send the car to them and charge me a fee on top for doing it. I know because they were quite upfront that that's what Volvo told them to do. Eventually I deceided that the Volvo For Life warranty wasn't worth paying their additional fee and took it straight there for any repairs.

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Hi Roy
I don't own one but a few friends do/have and i have bee involved with them since they first came to life in the 300 series then 400 series and evolved into a very nice engine in the 2001 onwards S/V40 They are certainly less trouble than the new 2.0 D in the new S40/V50 . Mileage is not a problem , they don't wear out , but then neither do many makes of engine these days . Volvo dealers shouldn't farm out diesel work , they are issued with the tools and training to deal with them .
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Clan,
As I'm going to view an 2003 S40 diesel this weekend, and you seem to have a good knowledge of them, have you any pointers for looking at a relatively high mileage one? The one I'm considering has 140k on, but the current owner says that it has a full Volvo service history. I'm looking forward to viewing it, hopefully it's as clean a car as it's current owner states.

Unfortunately I've no experience with Volvos, only Peugeots, Opels, and VWs. By the way, thanks for all your help so far!

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I don't own one but a few friends do/have and i have bee involved with them since they first came to life in the 300 series then 400 series and evolved into a very nice engine in the 2001 onwards S/V40 They are certainly less trouble than the new 2.0 D in the new S40/V50 . Mileage is not a problem , they don't wear out , but then neither do many makes of engine these days . Volvo dealers shouldn't farm out diesel work , they are issued with the tools and training to deal with them .
Thanks Clan.

According to the main dealer it was Volvo UK who told them to use First Diesel in Croydon. It was in 1991 though so maybe they didn't have enough trained diesel fitters back then. First Diesel had all the Volvo tools for the Diesel.

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