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foggyjames · Jan 6th, 2011, 03:08

Crikey, Paul, you're having fun with this, aren't you? I looked at it before Christmas, and you're still at it now!

Carbide burrs are a wonderful thing. We buy ones designed to fit into electric drills. They're not cheap (£10-15 a piece?) but they need to be tough (as you've found out). With care, that should do it. Obviously you can choose one from your local friendly tool supplier which will suit this application (head shape and shaft length). Just pop it in there, fire up the drill, and apply gentle pressure until you start cutting through it. You'll probably be able to weaken it enough to make breaking it up pretty easy, without risking cutting right through the race and damaging the tube.

All the best with it. I'll keep an eye on it, just in case I have any great ideas.

cheers

James

Paul240480 · Jan 6th, 2011, 21:51

Just had a fab offer from a chap on the French Volvo forum

If I do decide to go down the route of a complete axle swop, then he'll come along & help dismantle & refit. With that & my oppo' 'chauffeur' with his 850TDI & trailer offer, if my plan A of pulling that race fails, I have a fab plan B

I just love these forums

Clifford Pope · Jan 7th, 2011, 08:41

If you want to avoid the problems often associated with re-bleeding the rear brakes, remember you can free the entire brake system from the axle and hang it up, pipes still connected, under the wheel arches, and then swap the axle and re-attach.
The only tricky bit is undoing the tiny bolt holding the pipe mounting bracket on the left hand side of the top of the axle casing. It's worth clearing away all the rust, soaking in penetrating oil, and waggling the bracket a bit to clear debris and let the oil get through, before trying to turn the bolt.

PTJS · Jan 7th, 2011, 12:09

Good luck with this Paul. It's become a major exercise by the looks of it but with the support on offer I'm sure you'll nail it soon.

Cheers

Phil

Mike_Brace · Jan 7th, 2011, 16:19

Had the following text message from Paul:

"Phone and net dead after storm last night. I havce removed that stuck bit :-D. Other shaft in. Rain stopped play. Please update thread on my behalf :-D"

I must say that sounds to be great news from Paul and hopefully tank should soon be back on the road.

Mike

honestjoe · Jan 7th, 2011, 17:54

Cheers mike that is great news..hj..

940_Turbo · Jan 8th, 2011, 02:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike_Brace

Had the following text message from Paul:

"Phone and net dead after storm last night. I havce removed that stuck bit :-D. Other shaft in. Rain stopped play. Please update thread on my behalf :-D"

I must say that sounds to be great news from Paul and hopefully tank should soon be back on the road.

Mike

That's good news, and it sounds like he now has another project!

Paul240480 · Jan 8th, 2011, 10:40

Righto, t'interweb has returned. Apparently the storm knocked out something major causing my ISP in this region to go down. Repaired sometime over night.

Right, having been 'in battle' with this job since 23/12 I made some progress yesterday.

I went to the shops & got a carbide burr attachment & a set of pullers. The pullers had only 'outwards' feet, but I decided that I may be able to remove the 3-legs & turn them around to make suitable for this job.

Pullers first, but soon found that the gap in which the legs sat was smidge too small & the pullers would'nt grip. Just kept popping off with the slightest pressure.

So out with the burr

Well that merely tickled the flippin' thing. By now I was getting a tad wicked off & the option of that (daunting) axle swop loomed ever closer.

Next I decided 'do or die' not a lot to lose, so out came my trusty club hammer. I hooked my little claw hammer in behind the jammed race (as per my pic in earlier posts), carboard behind for protection & I began to wack the handle with my club hammer. 3, 6, 9, & 12 O'clock. Third time 'around the clock' & it had moved, all be it a smidge.

So now can I get the pullers in?

Well yes, after having it pull out about 20 or so times, I eventually got it to lock in place & used my wrench as a 'bar' for the puller to press on

Spanner on & winding!

And here just before it came out

The axle tube looked quite good, a few 'marks' but nothing that looked overly serious. I flushed it out with spray brake cleaner. Then a smear of grease & then I put in the 'old off-side' 1/2 shaft (regreased) & it seems to spin smoothly. Shortly after this heavy rain stopped play, light was fading too. So that is where I am up to right now, the weather is still against me. I shall probably run Tank like this, locally. But more than likely I'll nip back to the yard & get the near-side 1/2 shaft from the 'donor car' & fit that, just so as I have a shaft that has been 'going the right way', if that makes sense! Phew.

Things look a little brighter in the distance, so may be able to do some more today................... Fingers crossed!

andy_d · Jan 8th, 2011, 14:05

Result,
and proof that a bigger hammer sometimes does work.
with luck tank will be mobile without grindy noises soon...

and you can add rear axel to the list of "done" and award yourself a Big mug o tea for bearing + race swap duties.

chesters6 · Jan 8th, 2011, 14:53

i would check the other side in case its deficient in grease as well .
All well in the end though and you will probable never have to do it again.

Jan 6th, 2011, 03:08	#131
foggyjames 300 Register Keeper Last Online: Apr 24th, 2024 09:13 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nottingham	Crikey, Paul, you're having fun with this, aren't you? I looked at it before Christmas, and you're still at it now! Carbide burrs are a wonderful thing. We buy ones designed to fit into electric drills. They're not cheap (£10-15 a piece?) but they need to be tough (as you've found out). With care, that should do it. Obviously you can choose one from your local friendly tool supplier which will suit this application (head shape and shaft length). Just pop it in there, fire up the drill, and apply gentle pressure until you start cutting through it. You'll probably be able to weaken it enough to make breaking it up pretty easy, without risking cutting right through the race and damaging the tube. All the best with it. I'll keep an eye on it, just in case I have any great ideas. cheers James __________________ VOC 300-series Register Keeper '13 V70 D4 SE Lux '89 740 Turbo Intercooler '88 360 Turbo Intercooler '84 360 GLT '81 343 GLS R-Sport '79 343 DL '70 164

Jan 6th, 2011, 21:51	#132
Paul240480 Ovlovnut Last Online: Feb 25th, 2024 08:58 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nivillac View Photos By: Paul240480	Just had a fab offer from a chap on the French Volvo forum If I do decide to go down the route of a complete axle swop, then he'll come along & help dismantle & refit. With that & my oppo' 'chauffeur' with his 850TDI & trailer offer, if my plan A of pulling that race fails, I have a fab plan B I just love these forums __________________ 2004 V70 2.4SE Auto 'The Welshmobile’ 2002 Laika Ecovip 400i ( Motorhome on an Iveco 2.8TD) http://www.gitessouthbrittany.com/ http://moncopainmonchien.jimdo.com/

Jan 7th, 2011, 16:19	#135
Mike_Brace Former contributor Last Online: Jul 2nd, 2022 07:54 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Rhosgoch, Anglesey	Update Had the following text message from Paul: "Phone and net dead after storm last night. I havce removed that stuck bit :-D. Other shaft in. Rain stopped play. Please update thread on my behalf :-D" I must say that sounds to be great news from Paul and hopefully tank should soon be back on the road. Mike __________________ A Volvo is for life not just for Christmas!

Jan 8th, 2011, 10:40	#138
Paul240480 Ovlovnut Last Online: Feb 25th, 2024 08:58 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nivillac View Photos By: Paul240480	Righto, t'interweb has returned. Apparently the storm knocked out something major causing my ISP in this region to go down. Repaired sometime over night. Right, having been 'in battle' with this job since 23/12 I made some progress yesterday. I went to the shops & got a carbide burr attachment & a set of pullers. The pullers had only 'outwards' feet, but I decided that I may be able to remove the 3-legs & turn them around to make suitable for this job. Pullers first, but soon found that the gap in which the legs sat was smidge too small & the pullers would'nt grip. Just kept popping off with the slightest pressure. So out with the burr Well that merely tickled the flippin' thing. By now I was getting a tad wicked off & the option of that (daunting) axle swop loomed ever closer. Next I decided 'do or die' not a lot to lose, so out came my trusty club hammer. I hooked my little claw hammer in behind the jammed race (as per my pic in earlier posts), carboard behind for protection & I began to wack the handle with my club hammer. 3, 6, 9, & 12 O'clock. Third time 'around the clock' & it had moved, all be it a smidge. So now can I get the pullers in? Well yes, after having it pull out about 20 or so times, I eventually got it to lock in place & used my wrench as a 'bar' for the puller to press on Spanner on & winding! And here just before it came out The axle tube looked quite good, a few 'marks' but nothing that looked overly serious. I flushed it out with spray brake cleaner. Then a smear of grease & then I put in the 'old off-side' 1/2 shaft (regreased) & it seems to spin smoothly. Shortly after this heavy rain stopped play, light was fading too. So that is where I am up to right now, the weather is still against me. I shall probably run Tank like this, locally. But more than likely I'll nip back to the yard & get the near-side 1/2 shaft from the 'donor car' & fit that, just so as I have a shaft that has been 'going the right way', if that makes sense! Phew. Things look a little brighter in the distance, so may be able to do some more today................... Fingers crossed! __________________ 2004 V70 2.4SE Auto 'The Welshmobile’ 2002 Laika Ecovip 400i ( Motorhome on an Iveco 2.8TD) http://www.gitessouthbrittany.com/ http://moncopainmonchien.jimdo.com/

Jan 8th, 2011, 14:05	#139
andy_d Premier Member Last Online: Apr 24th, 2024 21:26 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: birmingham	Result, and proof that a bigger hammer sometimes does work. with luck tank will be mobile without grindy noises soon... and you can add rear axel to the list of "done" and award yourself a Big mug o tea for bearing + race swap duties. __________________ 940s - 2l / 92 < gone&missed s401.8 xs auto <gone >V50 2.4SE Geartronic aka "the new money pit" "skyship007 has now been successfully added to your ignore list. "."

Jan 7th, 2011, 08:41	#133
Clifford Pope Not an expert but ... Last Online: Yesterday 12:45 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Boncath	If you want to avoid the problems often associated with re-bleeding the rear brakes, remember you can free the entire brake system from the axle and hang it up, pipes still connected, under the wheel arches, and then swap the axle and re-attach. The only tricky bit is undoing the tiny bolt holding the pipe mounting bracket on the left hand side of the top of the axle casing. It's worth clearing away all the rust, soaking in penetrating oil, and waggling the bracket a bit to clear debris and let the oil get through, before trying to turn the bolt.

Jan 7th, 2011, 12:09	#134
PTJS Master Member Last Online: Aug 22nd, 2022 17:32 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Derby	Good luck with this Paul. It's become a major exercise by the looks of it but with the support on offer I'm sure you'll nail it soon. Cheers Phil

Jan 7th, 2011, 17:54	#136
honestjoe MY 240 DRIVES ME! Last Online: Yesterday 05:46 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: ashford kent View Photos By: honestjoe	Cheers mike that is great news..hj..

Jan 8th, 2011, 14:53	#140
chesters6 Master Member Last Online: Oct 17th, 2012 16:14 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Farnham View Photos By: chesters6	i would check the other side in case its deficient in grease as well . All well in the end though and you will probable never have to do it again.

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