Electronic Throttle System (Gulp!)

Paul240480 · Jan 7th, 2019, 17:12

99' T5SE Auto. 129000 miles.

Set off out today running fine. After about 3-4 miles went for a kickdown overtake & went into 'bog down' very rough and no omph.Then the ETS lamp came on. Overtake aborted & I limped to a nearby oppo's place.

Once there I disconnected the battery (rightly or wrongly?) . Left it 20 or minutes and then fired up. It died. 2nd attempt lumpy then died. 3rd attempt fired, I kept it running by giving it some gas & it settled to an idle. ETS lamp now off.

Decided to head for home, it ran quite happily at 50mph (so not in limp?). We got home. Tried revving it gently, runs upto 3k then began to splutter & pop.

As we were going out, set of the ph2.

Just tried my code readers. Cheap Autel shows no codes pending or otherwise . Then tried my OBDsxLInk connected to my laptop & again no codes, pending or otherwise.

The car is now cold & I tried to start. 1st fire and died. Second just span on starter, no start. Dark now so 'play' stopped.

I suspect the dreaded Electronic Throttle Module, which I think can mean 'end game'

Any suggestions?

Baffler · Jan 8th, 2019, 00:08

It's the ghosts of Gent, Paul...

Some options for you to consider... ECU Testing - ARD Tuning Repair Kit - BBA Reman ...before you condemn an otherwise perfectly good motor.

Out of interest...have you changed the Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor in your ownership? If not it's a damn sight cheaper than a new/refurbed ETM. A thorough clean of the throttle body may also help.

Paul240480 · Jan 8th, 2019, 07:58

Thanks Liam. That's given me a good heads up.

No I haven't changed the temp sensor......yet.

Paul240480 · Jan 8th, 2019, 09:24

My panic maybe over. Was thinking during the night, on my old 480 tub, the turbo pipe used to blow off on a regular basis. Causing same issues as the T5 has.
Had a look just now & see what I found.

Pretty sure this would explain the lack of codes too?
Fingers crossed.

Paul240480 · Jan 8th, 2019, 13:20

That was a broken (rusted through) jubilee clip. Nipped out to get a new one. Fitted it went for a blat, job done. What a lot of fuss over nowt

Bob Meadows · Jan 9th, 2019, 10:51

If you have a rusted Jubilee clip this bad then it is worth checking others- particularly the water hoses that are out of normal view.
Bob

Baffler · Jan 10th, 2019, 22:29

Excellent! Nice handy fix

I agree with Bob in that you should check for any other potential failures such as the lower radiator and intercooler hose clips.

Paul240480 · Jan 10th, 2019, 22:43

Good shout Bob and Liam, will do as I am told.

DSK · Jan 14th, 2019, 21:43

What is the the part that is at fault in the picture?

Looks like its near the rad to me. Good to hear its sorted!

Paul240480 · Jan 14th, 2019, 21:51

Right down the bottom of the pic, below my maglite you should be able to see a hose detached?

Jan 7th, 2019, 17:12	#1
Paul240480 Ovlovnut Last Online: Feb 25th, 2024 08:58 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nivillac View Photos By: Paul240480	Electronic Throttle System (Gulp!) 99' T5SE Auto. 129000 miles. Set off out today running fine. After about 3-4 miles went for a kickdown overtake & went into 'bog down' very rough and no omph.Then the ETS lamp came on. Overtake aborted & I limped to a nearby oppo's place. Once there I disconnected the battery (rightly or wrongly?) . Left it 20 or minutes and then fired up. It died. 2nd attempt lumpy then died. 3rd attempt fired, I kept it running by giving it some gas & it settled to an idle. ETS lamp now off. Decided to head for home, it ran quite happily at 50mph (so not in limp?). We got home. Tried revving it gently, runs upto 3k then began to splutter & pop. As we were going out, set of the ph2. Just tried my code readers. Cheap Autel shows no codes pending or otherwise . Then tried my OBDsxLInk connected to my laptop & again no codes, pending or otherwise. The car is now cold & I tried to start. 1st fire and died. Second just span on starter, no start. Dark now so 'play' stopped. I suspect the dreaded Electronic Throttle Module, which I think can mean 'end game' Any suggestions? __________________ 2004 V70 2.4SE Auto 'The Welshmobile’ 2002 Laika Ecovip 400i ( Motorhome on an Iveco 2.8TD) http://www.gitessouthbrittany.com/ http://moncopainmonchien.jimdo.com/

Jan 8th, 2019, 00:08	#2
Baffler Premier Member Last Online: Yesterday 19:44 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Co. Limerick, Ireland	It's the ghosts of Gent, Paul... Some options for you to consider... ECU Testing - ARD Tuning Repair Kit - BBA Reman ...before you condemn an otherwise perfectly good motor. Out of interest...have you changed the Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor in your ownership? If not it's a damn sight cheaper than a new/refurbed ETM. A thorough clean of the throttle body may also help. __________________ Liam... '96 854 TDI SE, '99 V70 2.5D S, '05 C70 2.0T Collection, '05 S80 2.0T SE, '15 V70 D4 SE Lux Nav.

Jan 8th, 2019, 07:58	#3
Paul240480 Ovlovnut Last Online: Feb 25th, 2024 08:58 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nivillac View Photos By: Paul240480	Thanks Liam. That's given me a good heads up. No I haven't changed the temp sensor......yet. __________________ 2004 V70 2.4SE Auto 'The Welshmobile’ 2002 Laika Ecovip 400i ( Motorhome on an Iveco 2.8TD) http://www.gitessouthbrittany.com/ http://moncopainmonchien.jimdo.com/

Jan 8th, 2019, 09:24	#4
Paul240480 Ovlovnut Last Online: Feb 25th, 2024 08:58 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nivillac View Photos By: Paul240480	Woohoo! My panic maybe over. Was thinking during the night, on my old 480 tub, the turbo pipe used to blow off on a regular basis. Causing same issues as the T5 has. Had a look just now & see what I found. Pretty sure this would explain the lack of codes too? Fingers crossed. __________________ 2004 V70 2.4SE Auto 'The Welshmobile’ 2002 Laika Ecovip 400i ( Motorhome on an Iveco 2.8TD) http://www.gitessouthbrittany.com/ http://moncopainmonchien.jimdo.com/

Jan 8th, 2019, 13:20	#5
Paul240480 Ovlovnut Last Online: Feb 25th, 2024 08:58 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nivillac View Photos By: Paul240480	That was a broken (rusted through) jubilee clip. Nipped out to get a new one. Fitted it went for a blat, job done. What a lot of fuss over nowt __________________ 2004 V70 2.4SE Auto 'The Welshmobile’ 2002 Laika Ecovip 400i ( Motorhome on an Iveco 2.8TD) http://www.gitessouthbrittany.com/ http://moncopainmonchien.jimdo.com/

Jan 9th, 2019, 10:51	#6
Bob Meadows Premier Member Last Online: Today 19:14 Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: STANDISH LANCASHIRE	If you have a rusted Jubilee clip this bad then it is worth checking others- particularly the water hoses that are out of normal view. Bob

Jan 10th, 2019, 22:29	#7
Baffler Premier Member Last Online: Yesterday 19:44 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Co. Limerick, Ireland	Excellent! Nice handy fix I agree with Bob in that you should check for any other potential failures such as the lower radiator and intercooler hose clips. __________________ Liam... '96 854 TDI SE, '99 V70 2.5D S, '05 C70 2.0T Collection, '05 S80 2.0T SE, '15 V70 D4 SE Lux Nav.

Jan 10th, 2019, 22:43	#8
Paul240480 Ovlovnut Last Online: Feb 25th, 2024 08:58 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nivillac View Photos By: Paul240480	Good shout Bob and Liam, will do as I am told. __________________ 2004 V70 2.4SE Auto 'The Welshmobile’ 2002 Laika Ecovip 400i ( Motorhome on an Iveco 2.8TD) http://www.gitessouthbrittany.com/ http://moncopainmonchien.jimdo.com/

Jan 14th, 2019, 21:43	#9
DSK C70 T5 Last Online: Mar 23rd, 2022 21:00 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Midlands	What is the the part that is at fault in the picture? Looks like its near the rad to me. Good to hear its sorted! __________________ 2000 C70 T5 GT Coupe 1998 S70R / 1995 Toyota Supra Twin Turbo 2007 Mercedes CLS 320 CDI / 2011 Mercedes S350 Bluetec 2007 Suzuki GSXR-1000

Jan 14th, 2019, 21:51	#10
Paul240480 Ovlovnut Last Online: Feb 25th, 2024 08:58 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nivillac View Photos By: Paul240480	Right down the bottom of the pic, below my maglite you should be able to see a hose detached? __________________ 2004 V70 2.4SE Auto 'The Welshmobile’ 2002 Laika Ecovip 400i ( Motorhome on an Iveco 2.8TD) http://www.gitessouthbrittany.com/ http://moncopainmonchien.jimdo.com/

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