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Old Jun 29th, 2013, 23:41   #11
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You could well be right. Give me a petrol over a modern diesel any day.

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Old Jun 30th, 2013, 00:17   #12
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I believe new cars are all rubbish due to abundant and complicated electronics.
Agreed 100%. Its why I prefer older cars.
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Maybe I´m also becoming a grumpy old fart, because the next car is a Volvo 940
I said the exact same thing when my Renault Laguna died. I had another 940 estate before that and I loved it, but it was costing too much in fuel.

Here's a little arithmetic challenge.

I bought a 940 estate for £300 off a mate. I then spent in total about £300 in parts (mostly consumables, including a couple of tyres) to make it good. I had it for 2 years. At the most expensive time (for about 6 months) I was spending £100 a week on fuel. Insurance group 8 (I think) it was costing me nearly nowt to insure. About £300 per year.

I changed to a newer, smaller car, which I bought for £1300, which I had for 2 years and in that time I spent around £1000 on garage bills (because I could do NONE of the maintenance myself, all specialist tools and plastic crap in the way, too complicated, and because it failed a lot anyway). While I had that car I was spending around £70 a week on fuel. Insurance group 12 (I think) I couldn't get insurance under any terms for less than about £500 per year

Ok so fuel prices rose a bit since getting rid of the old 940, but not by that much, so in effect the 'cheaper' car was actually loads more expensive (I think, haven't actually done the sums).

So when the Laguna failed its MOT with a list that spanned two pages, and that didn't even include the engine fault that had developed, my decision was easy. I posted on here that I was after a 940 estate, a good chap replied, we did a deal, and we all live happily ever after.
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Old Jun 30th, 2013, 02:35   #13
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Can't prove any of this of course, but at my age I'm allowed grumpy old man status - and my own pet conspiracy theories!
Sorry late to the fray, Cpts words are not the words of another grumpy, but stark 'kin reality.

Ripped: And the economics for 940 ownership have a ring of truth too. Well done.
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Old Sep 13th, 2013, 10:18   #14
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Capt Jack has it right. LPG and its cousin CNG from a taxation standpoint is a real non-starter. What you ask for is doomed to fail.

This is political. The government gets 25% of all its revenue from fuel duty. They'll play lip-service to LPG's greenish-credentils for a while, as long as it doesn't take-off. Our government has liabilities we can't afford. Government borrows billions to pay for these, UK plc is not properly solvent and has not been for years. They're hardly going to ease-off on the soft target of the motorist for tax, our numbers just don't add up, the UK spends more than it taxes.

Our politicians have pandered all sorts of things we really should never be getting., so we need the tax revenue.
Our underclass is paid to sit on the dole whilst we import labour to do the jobs they won't. We give our public-sector copper-bottomed pensions. Before this sounds like a Daily Mail editorial I'll shut-up, but you get my point. Politicians like to use the term 'Government money", "the governemt will create jobs" etc etc Just rember the government only has Nomoeny, none of its own, only our taxes.


We need fuel-duty. If we stopped FD there would be riots on the streets as we cut the things it pays for. People want the other guy to pay fo it all. The other-guy in this case is the motorist, the government has no money, it never did. It only has taxes, our tax money. It spends it to keep us happy.

LPG and its cousin CNG from a taxation standpoint is a real non-starter. If petrol and diesel did not exist, do you think LPG would be cheap? Someone has to pay. It is you.

Every car on the road generates at least £16-17,000 in tax, mine much more. Would they switch this off en masse?

There would be blood on our streets.

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