Auto Gearbox

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Originally Posted by Deman77

Off road mode has reset mine. To remind - set it in off road and speed past 30 so it disingages. What a difference. Mine gets driven by two OAPs and my wife during the week all with differemt style and me on weekend, so after a couple of months my box gets utterly confused. It’s nice not to have to take it to the dealers for a reset.

That may explain why I have not experienced any of the issues described by others. I'm in Off-Road mode fairly regularly and about every other time I just accelerate out of it. This apparently resets the transmission map to the factory default, which I certainly did not know before tonight.

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Originally Posted by Sceptre123

I dont actually mind the gearbox, its not as nice as the one's i've had in previous BMW's, but much nicer than the one in the Land Rover Discovery Sport...

Thanks for the info re - Aisin as the manufacturer. It appears to be fully fledged auto.. pretty unusual these days.

Couldn't agree more - one of the reasons I binned the Disco Sport was the atrocious and dim-witted auto box - it was utterly dreadful

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Originally Posted by weemark

Couldn't agree more - one of the reasons I binned the Disco Sport was the atrocious and dim-witted auto box - it was utterly dreadful

I am surprised to hear you say that. The Disco Sport has a ZF nine speed auto. It is built under license by Chrysler iirc. and used extensively in the Jeep Cherokee and also some Mini and LR Disco Sport plus the Evoque. Probably several more vehicles that I've forgotten about.

It did have its problems with software early on, especially in the Jeep where it was first used. It is also rather different to most torque convertor automatics [which it is] in that it has dog clutches [like a motorbike] in two gearshift points. I forget which ratios they are. This may result in a bit of a delay and rough change between those ratios unless the driver eases the engine torque as the change is made.

My impression was that the software, especially on LR vehicles, meant that it now behaved very acceptably and I'm slightly disappointed to hear that yours was unsatisfactory.

Having said all that, it now occurs to me that you might have had an early Disco Sport with the Ford engine and six speed auto? These are heavy on fuel if nothing else.

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Nope it was a late 2016 car with the ingenium engine (with the associated diesel dilution) and the 9 speed box. It was truly dreadful, desperate to hold onto the highest gear possible at all costs so u coast up to a corner or roundaboat and try to accelerate away and ...... wait! Then a second later the dog clutches wake up, select a gear and you get a boot in your back. A real marmite gearbox, some had no problems, I and a few others on the DS forum had real issues

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Originally Posted by weemark

Nope it was a late 2016 car with the ingenium engine (with the associated diesel dilution) and the 9 speed box. It was truly dreadful, desperate to hold onto the highest gear possible at all costs so u coast up to a corner or roundaboat and try to accelerate away and ...... wait! Then a second later the dog clutches wake up, select a gear and you get a boot in your back. A real marmite gearbox, some had no problems, I and a few others on the DS forum had real issues

Oh dear! I hope to try that combination out myself soon. Part of the reason I landed with an XC90 was because the saleswoman at a LR dealer tried to talk me out of ordering a pre-configured Discovery5[all she had to do was take my order] and into a Discovery Sport, which I did not want. So I walked out and into a Volvo dealer and bought my current car, which they had in stock. I rather hoped that a Disco Sport would be a suitable replacement for my CRV later this year. I really would like to buy British.

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I would strongly advise you to think very very carefully before u buy a DS - it is not a premium car and has a number of fundamental design, engineering and build quality issues. Yes every car has issues but the number and severity of those on the DS was scary - the diesel dilution issue being the most severe of all. Have some time browsing round the forum at https://www.discosportforums.co.uk and you'll quickly see what I mean

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From my experience the DS is a disappointment made worse by awful dealers.

I too wanted British, after 2 poor cars and a 3rd the dealer ordered to the wrong spec, I went to the Volvo dealer and haven’t looked back.

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I think part of the issue with JLR is that they are low down on the suppliers priority lists, for example BMW sell >2.5 million vehicles per year Landrover sell about 400,000, it is probably a similar situation to Volvo. If your a supplier who do you want to keep happy, yes both ideally, but it is a much bigger penalty if things go wrong at BMW.

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I agree. I have been used to Mercs and Beamers gearboxes which had pretty good reputations. But the auto gear box on the S90 is really impressive. I find it responsive and gear selection very good...I heard it is designed by the Japanese.

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Originally Posted by Converted

I agree. I have been used to Mercs and Beamers gearboxes which had pretty good reputations. But the auto gear box on the S90 is really impressive. I find it responsive and gear selection very good...I heard it is designed by the Japanese.

Not all of them. Only a select few. The Japanese that is.

The gearbox is an AW unit. A company that Toyota has some holding in and which supplies all Toyota Group automatics as far as I know. The model used by Volvo is used across many front wheel drive Toyota and Lexus car models. The in-line engine version is used by Audi in the Q7