Auto Gearbox

Sceptre123 · Mar 27th, 2018, 17:32

Is the auto gearbox in the XC40 / XC60 and XC90 the same? Does anyone know what type of gearbox it is, and if there are any known issues?

Deman77 · Mar 27th, 2018, 17:52

Aisin box. Same for 90 and 60. Not sure about 40. Issue or feature is hesitation if pushed both off the line and shifting down. Loves to stay in higher gear and then changes down very perceptibly. Manual overrides do not help. Not a great box. Really discourages spirited driving. One of the things you just have to accept is not great about this car.

bobby2000 · Mar 27th, 2018, 18:38

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Originally Posted by Deman77

Aisin box. Same for 90 and 60. Not sure about 40. Issue or feature is hesitation if pushed both off the line and shifting down. Loves to stay in higher gear and then changes down very perceptibly. Manual overrides do not help. Not a great box. Really discourages spirited driving. One of the things you just have to accept is not great about this car.

But surely if you bought an SUV it's not necessary for it to drive like a hot hatch or sports car.Just enjoy the comfort, mine does a good enough job, 0_60 in around 6.5 secs, not exactly slow!

Sceptre123 · Mar 27th, 2018, 18:46

I dont actually mind the gearbox, its not as nice as the one's i've had in previous BMW's, but much nicer than the one in the Land Rover Discovery Sport...

Thanks for the info re - Aisin as the manufacturer. It appears to be fully fledged auto.. pretty unusual these days.

Ringthane · Mar 27th, 2018, 19:18

Personally, I’ve never thought the hesitation, after you plant your foot, is a gearbox issue, rather than a traction/spin control thing.

With 400Nm odd of torque, I’m sure there’s some onboard gadgetry easing you off the line and not allowing the wheels to spin.

Admittedly, it does take some getting used to, and I have found myself anticipating the lag.

Clan · Mar 27th, 2018, 21:01

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Originally Posted by Sceptre123

I dont actually mind the gearbox, its not as nice as the one's i've had in previous BMW's, but much nicer than the one in the Land Rover Discovery Sport...

Thanks for the info re - Aisin as the manufacturer. It appears to be fully fledged auto.. pretty unusual these days.

Its the familiar Asian Warner TF80 6 speed with an extra 2 gears , and brought up to date of course . nice how it changes down and down as you slow ...

Considered1 · Mar 27th, 2018, 22:59

8 speed geartronic was perfect in our XC60, even better with polestar optimisation. Be surprised if it’s gone backwards into the new models.

Quacker · Mar 28th, 2018, 00:17

This AW box is used extensively across the Volvo, Toyota and Lexus range of vehicles. In its in-line form it is also used in the Audi Q7 diesel 3.0 v6 cars. The transverse and in-line versions share many common parts with the main difference being the shorter length of the transverse version plus the inclusion of the final drive in the case. The way they achieve this shortening is to replace one of the stacked brake packs with an external [to the planetary] brake band.

There’s a couple of videos on YouTube on the Weber University channel where professor John Kelly opens both versions up and explains the power flow through them, should anyone be interested in how stuff works.

MOzS90 · Mar 28th, 2018, 06:43

Coming from a BMW 335d and it’s excellent auto box I thought I’d be disappointed with the Volvo but it’s fine for what I want.

The only thing I don’t like is the very clunky and mechanical gear selector that is very poor compared to the BMW electrically actuated system. Half the time I’m wondering what sort of damage I’m doing when selecting drive or reverse.

gaby · Mar 28th, 2018, 08:04

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Originally Posted by MOzS90

The only thing I don’t like is the very clunky and mechanical gear selector that is very poor...

You don't drive a T8 then?

Mar 27th, 2018, 17:32	#1
Sceptre123 Junior Member Last Online: Apr 10th, 2023 15:27 Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: York	Auto Gearbox Is the auto gearbox in the XC40 / XC60 and XC90 the same? Does anyone know what type of gearbox it is, and if there are any known issues?

Mar 27th, 2018, 17:52	#2
Deman77 Master Member Last Online: Apr 1st, 2022 14:14 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Greater London	Aisin box. Same for 90 and 60. Not sure about 40. Issue or feature is hesitation if pushed both off the line and shifting down. Loves to stay in higher gear and then changes down very perceptibly. Manual overrides do not help. Not a great box. Really discourages spirited driving. One of the things you just have to accept is not great about this car. __________________ XC90 D5 P* MY16 BMW i3

Mar 27th, 2018, 19:18	#5
Ringthane VOC Member Last Online: May 2nd, 2022 21:01 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pinner	Personally, I’ve never thought the hesitation, after you plant your foot, is a gearbox issue, rather than a traction/spin control thing. With 400Nm odd of torque, I’m sure there’s some onboard gadgetry easing you off the line and not allowing the wheels to spin. Admittedly, it does take some getting used to, and I have found myself anticipating the lag. __________________ XC60 D4 MY19 Inscription Pro, Crystal White, Blond Interior, Xenium, Intellisafe Pro, Family Pack, Dark Tinted and Laminated, Tempa, CarPlay, HUD, Polestar. MY11 D5 AWD R Design Black Saphire "Christmas Tree"

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Mar 28th, 2018, 00:17	#8
Quacker Premier Member Last Online: Nov 22nd, 2021 00:53 Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: West of Carmarthen	This AW box is used extensively across the Volvo, Toyota and Lexus range of vehicles. In its in-line form it is also used in the Audi Q7 diesel 3.0 v6 cars. The transverse and in-line versions share many common parts with the main difference being the shorter length of the transverse version plus the inclusion of the final drive in the case. The way they achieve this shortening is to replace one of the stacked brake packs with an external [to the planetary] brake band. There’s a couple of videos on YouTube on the Weber University channel where professor John Kelly opens both versions up and explains the power flow through them, should anyone be interested in how stuff works. __________________ XC90 D5, 2017 Inscription. Dark Grey. Xenium pack. Winter Plus with HUD. Black leather interior with alloy trim inserts. Ownership ended June 2020, Happy motoring times!

Mar 27th, 2018, 18:46	#4
Sceptre123 Junior Member Last Online: Apr 10th, 2023 15:27 Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: York	I dont actually mind the gearbox, its not as nice as the one's i've had in previous BMW's, but much nicer than the one in the Land Rover Discovery Sport... Thanks for the info re - Aisin as the manufacturer. It appears to be fully fledged auto.. pretty unusual these days.

Mar 28th, 2018, 06:43	#9
MOzS90 Senior Member Last Online: Feb 7th, 2020 22:15 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Utopia	Coming from a BMW 335d and it’s excellent auto box I thought I’d be disappointed with the Volvo but it’s fine for what I want. The only thing I don’t like is the very clunky and mechanical gear selector that is very poor compared to the BMW electrically actuated system. Half the time I’m wondering what sort of damage I’m doing when selecting drive or reverse.

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