S40 (New) Body : Another water in footwell thread

[rowdy]

Doubt it, it would more than likely be manufactured by pilkington who have been making windscreens for donkeys years.
Volvo won’t be making their own screens they will be produced by another manufacturer anyway.

I am on windscreen number 3 and haven’t had an issue with one yet.

[smeagle]

Had this issue for years on a V50 so taped up the sunroof but still found water!
When the carpet was removed the amount of water was huge and being held in the sound deadening sponge.

If your issue is the same the problem is where the drain tubes join another tube to then pass through the wing. You can get to these if you remove the trim but its very difficult.

For me I had the window replaced as when they left factory they had an issue with the glass bonding and so the top of my window was not well sealed. Whilst the window was out the problem was easily seen. I glued the tube back in place and surrounded the joint with sticks like ****.

Hopefully this will hold.

[SnineT]

1st job in times like these is to open the bonnet and check for dead leaves under the scuttle panel, depending on your car you may have to remove the wipers to get the cover off, once off you should have some drain holes that if they are blocked up will cause the rain to overwhelm the pollen filter and any other entrances there maybe in the firewall.

[StatusRed]

Originally Posted by SnineT

1st job in times like these is to open the bonnet and check for dead leaves under the scuttle panel, depending on your car you may have to remove the wipers to get the cover off, once off you should have some drain holes that if they are blocked up will cause the rain to overwhelm the pollen filter and any other entrances there maybe in the firewall.

That's an interesting theory I'll take a look.

What's weird is that it's been hammering down with rain here for days but the area is totally dry..

[FITZSURF]

Originally Posted by StatusRed

That's an interesting theory I'll take a look.

What's weird is that it's been hammering down with rain here for days but the area is totally dry..

Had windscreen removed and re-bonded twice on my 2009 Volvo V50. Aqua-vacced 9 litres of water from the insulation under the carpets last March. Latest removal then rebonding cost £130. Think it would have been an extra £100 or so, for a new windscreen to be fitted.

[iainmd]

@StatusRed It pains me to see another of these and angers me that Volvo take no responsibility. I've had a 2004 S40 and a 2009 V50 that both suffered a failure of the windscreen seal in exactly the spot yours has failed. Both had the original factory screen. The S40's went after about 8yrs and the V50 after about 12yrs. This is clearly a manufacturing flaw but Volvo won't admit it.

The first one, despite protestations to Volvo, I paid for replacement myself.

The second one, I pushed Volvo further and got a pretty hopeless offer that if they could get the screen off without damaging it they would re-bond it free of charge. The caveat was that if it broke on removal I had to bear the cost of replacement myself. Of course, you can guess how this went....
The rubber seal on the top of the screen split on removal so I got stung for £550 for a new screen. Worse still, the rain sensor was damaged on removal as well and I got stung for a new one of those as well. I asked Volvo for some form of goodwill contribution and was pretty much told to sod off.

Considering the windscreen forms part of the structural rigidity of a car and Volvo supposedly pride themselves on safety I confess I'm pretty appalled. No doubt someone will spring to their defence and say "but your car is out of warranty" but it's very obviously a manufacturing defect. Everyone's screen seems to separate at the top left corner!

Volvo's "customer service" on this is the primary reason that this will be my last Volvo. There are others reasons too but my experience of Volvo UK customer service over the last 17 years has been nothing short of woeful.

Iain

[StatusRed]

Originally Posted by iainmd

@StatusRed It pains me to see another of these and angers me that Volvo take no responsibility. I've had a 2004 S40 and a 2009 V50 that both suffered a failure of the windscreen seal in exactly the spot yours has failed. Both had the original factory screen. The S40's went after about 8yrs and the V50 after about 12yrs. This is clearly a manufacturing flaw but Volvo won't admit it.

The first one, despite protestations to Volvo, I paid for replacement myself.

The second one, I pushed Volvo further and got a pretty hopeless offer that if they could get the screen off without damaging it they would re-bond it free of charge. The caveat was that if it broke on removal I had to bear the cost of replacement myself. Of course, you can guess how this went....
The rubber seal on the top of the screen split on removal so I got stung for £550 for a new screen. Worse still, the rain sensor was damaged on removal as well and I got stung for a new one of those as well. I asked Volvo for some form of goodwill contribution and was pretty much told to sod off.

Considering the windscreen forms part of the structural rigidity of a car and Volvo supposedly pride themselves on safety I confess I'm pretty appalled. No doubt someone will spring to their defence and say "but your car is out of warranty" but it's very obviously a manufacturing defect. Everyone's screen seems to separate at the top left corner!

Volvo's "customer service" on this is the primary reason that this will be my last Volvo. There are others reasons too but my experience of Volvo UK customer service over the last 17 years has been nothing short of woeful.

Iain

I haven't actually seen any water recently and what was there was relatively small. So unless this becomes a more common issue or the water is a lot more I'm not too concerned.

And to be perfectly honest.. on a 8 year old and 12 year old car I think we should be expecting things to go wrong occasionally and need rectifying, it's unreasonable to expect everything to last forever..

My car is now over 13 years old with 154k miles on the clock and in my 7 years of ownership the only non serviceable things I've had to replace is the wheel position sensor, 1 of the headlight washers, boot wiring loom and some air valve bypass things (can't remember exactly) which was just recommended to be done by a Volvo specialist and wasn't actually causing any noticeable issue at the time.

So with potentially a problem of the window seal going on the cards, I don't think that's bad at all to be honest.

[SnineT]

Originally Posted by StatusRed

That's an interesting theory I'll take a look.

What's weird is that it's been hammering down with rain here for days but the area is totally dry..

VAG had terrible issues with this, the B5 Passat was one of the worst and once it got in it destroyed the convenience unit and set about rusting up any other contact points in connectors under the passenger areas.

[StatusRed]

Kind of worse the other day, I think I can see it running down the corner of the windscreen after heavy rain then dripping onto the car mats.. Fine today..

[SnineT]

Originally Posted by StatusRed

Kind of worse the other day, I think I can see it running down the corner of the windscreen after heavy rain then dripping onto the car mats.. Fine today..

Monitor it with the car parked in different positions so you can get an idea where it's most likely to come in worst, so nose down/up, sloped left/right combi of the two.

If you do find it's the screen not sealing and due to its age don't want to spend out, get some No Nonsense clear bathroom sealant, only make a small cut in the nozzle and go round the screen edge if there's no rubber seal like in old cars, if you can't get in there use the sealant from inside, it will mean taking off the trim cover and possibly the front of the headlining and do a thin bead all round the screen avoiding the dash obviously.