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Swirl Arm low cost repair!

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Old Apr 1st, 2013, 16:38   #21
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I can't see the pictures.
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Old Apr 1st, 2013, 20:48   #22
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It seems to be a problem with the site since it was moved to a different host recently, which pics are you referring to?
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Old Apr 17th, 2013, 23:36   #23
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Hi
I have a disconnected swirl arm on my newly acquired S60 185. I was planning on using a 3mm diameter bolt, nut and washers. Are there any issues with such a permanent fix and any pictures or advice on a 'bump stop' ?
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Old Apr 18th, 2013, 10:25   #24
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Smile I would use the volvo kit...

Not sure which kind of linkage you have (post a pic...) but the volvo 'nail' kit is a well thought out one, but needs a 2mm hole, see pic attached, if you use a bolt the head would foul the casting (see the red line on pic) even with the volvo kit you need to remove a bit of metal from the casting so the nail head doesnt foul the casting when in the opposite direction. Kit is P/N 31293291 and only a few quid. Making the hole in the right place is the hardest bit, have some tips on this if you need..
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Hi
My link arm looks like yours. When I reconnect the arm is it just a case of moving the flap to match the motor/arm position?
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Smile How it works

Yes you can just re-connect it, basically every 5th engine switch off (engine needs to run then be shut off) ie you cant mimic this by turning the ignition from off to on 5 times!, you will see the stepper drive fully in each direction, i think it uses the load /current on the motor to detect when its hitting the limit, and will then reverse the direction till it hits the limit the other way, this is basically what over stresses the link (mine had one of the 4 plastic retainers inside the socket broken off). I would definitely recommend making a rubber stop to stop the stepper arm very close to its limit (this bit takes some adjusting as it only calibrates every 5th switch off) a pic of my attempt attached (unfortunately some recent changes on the forum have meant old pictures with posts have been lost for the moment). Also some info on what the swirl throttles do, worth taking some time to drill the butterfly carefully as its a fairly expensive job to replace the swirl throttle's (all plastic part), but if you follow the above you should have something that wont fall apart again anytime soon
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Thanks for the great reply, I have contacted my nearest dealer but the computer system was down! The parts guy has promised to call me tomorrow and get the kit ordered. Re the bump stop, what is it made from and where does it go? Any pics?
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Old Apr 19th, 2013, 10:18   #28
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Smile bump stop

The bump stop is in the last pic, (not adjusted up correctly there) see the arm coming out of the stepper, top rhs of pic, made from some ally angle bracked and a block of rubber glued onto it (not the most elegant) but works nicely..a better pic attached
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I picked the kit up today and fitted it this evening - quite a fiddley job, especially getting the clip on !

I used an old soldering iron with a removable pointed tip (filed down to 2mm dia.) to melt the hole in the butterfly. I also found it necessary to file the little raised square on the left side of the butterfly as it was stopping the pin from sitting square.

The car did seem to start and tickover better, although i haven't driven it yet. Perhaps the swirl valves had been left in the wrong position when the arm came adrift?

Is there just a bump stop for 1 direction?

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Not sure which kind of linkage you have (post a pic...) but the volvo 'nail' kit is a well thought out one, but needs a 2mm hole, see pic attached, if you use a bolt the head would foul the casting (see the red line on pic) even with the volvo kit you need to remove a bit of metal from the casting so the nail head doesnt foul the casting when in the opposite direction. Kit is P/N 31293291 and only a few quid. Making the hole in the right place is the hardest bit, have some tips on this if you need..
Anybody know if this kit is only available from dealers or can it be ordered online?
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