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Reasons to buy new car

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Old Jan 19th, 2018, 05:04   #11
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Oh, that "new car" smell ... of warm plastic. :-)

Seriously, the fact that you can just jump in it and drive around leaving the headache of "what's that knocking/scraping/squeeking/chattering sound?" and having somebody else lie on the floor underneath it instead of me. Four years of not having any MOT to worry about.

Details! Like the rubbers in the door shuts looking brand new and not producing a waterfall every time the door is opened. Freedom from that worry about the wiring gaters starting to fray. Non-oily door hinges. Foot pedals which have rubbers still on! Scratch free upholstery. No moss growing on the window rubbers. No mould in the repeater lamps. No used parking tickets stuck down beneath the windscreen impossibly difficult to retrieve. A rear screen you can actually see out of without having to use that bloody wiper. Funny how rear screens never needed wiping until somebody decided to wipe them. See how the water bobbles on the swept area, notice it doesn't do this on the unswept area. Drive around backwards much?

The warranty on new cars strikes me as very appealing. I mean, 100,000 miles! They knew what they were doing when they decided to cripple the second-hand car market.

I doubt it'll ever be within my economic reach, but I can fully understand why somebody would buy a new car. And good for them.

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Can't afford a new car, and I think people who take out a second mortgage to have a new car are off their rockers. Maybe if I won big on the lottery I would have one, until then, my 15 year old S60 does exactly what a new car does
You're a little out of touch buddy, you don't need a second mortgage to have a new car - they are now and for many years now, been within the reach of the many, rather than the few, as the majority of cars"sold"to consumers are on PCPs - how else do you think all those chavvy types drive around in Audis, BMWs, Mercedes and yes, even Volvos ?

And the rest of the new cars are company owned, so that's more people driving cars they can't actually afford !

That's why a new car is no longer a status symbol - they're all now commodities, just like your white goods.

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Old Jan 19th, 2018, 11:10   #13
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If 'Rossi-fan' is 'a little out of touch', Jon, then so am I and, I suspect, are many others. I share 'Rossi-fan's' view and could have written the same post - only substituting '18' for '15' and 'V70' for 'S60'.

In a long motoring life I have owned many cars, but have bought only the one new car (1978 Mini 1000) and had the use of one company car (1980 Princess 2.0).

Personally, I think that this attitude or mind-set stems to a certain extent from one's attitude towards debt. The only debt that we have had has been a mortgage and the odd item on interest-free credit (that was almost forced upon us and which we would have been mad to refuse).

I realise that we were fortunate in this, and that others are less so, but it is a habit that I will take with me to my grave. Like 'Rossi-fan', I will not put myself in debt for a depreciating asset, nor do I find the idea of spending £300 per month or so just to have the latest registration plate on my car appealing - that's still £10K over a 3 year agreement down the drain!

By the way, I had to look up 'chavvy' on the internet as it does not appear in my dictionary - don't you think that it's use in this context is just a little patronising of the many who do not fit this stereotype, yet still enter into such agreements?

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Old Jan 19th, 2018, 12:36   #14
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The arguments for buying a new car are easy:

Is it someone else's money? - yes please, I'll have one

Is it my money? - er, no thanks I'll stick with my second hand and still (thanks to modern manufacturing design and technology) good vehicle.
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Old Jan 19th, 2018, 13:40   #15
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The Reasons to buy a new car are exactly the same reasons why some have dumped diesel and gone to petrol......to keep the economy going for the Government.

Burning and using the World glut of Petrol is now putting more CO2 into the air as Diesels put half as much per kilometre. The latest Diesels are now more eco friendly than Petrol so i suppose all the sheep will then turn to Diesel motors having spent a lot more money as the economy wants.

There are really no other reasons to buy a new car as they are not so reliable as they have deliberate inbuilt obsolescence with their cheaply made parts made to wear quicker or to break.....they are all at it?

Paying out in the first place for a new car whether by cash or PCP is not the end of it as paying for the inconvenience of deliberate breakdowns by the manufacturer keeps the economy going even more, just like potholes are NOT repaired so to keep the money spinning over for new suspension parts and workers paid to repair them.

I have had one newish 6 months old car in my 50 yrs of motoring which had lost it`s purchase tax by the original owner ......yes, it smelt nice and was quick being the 1975 Escort Mexico in Daytona Yellow very nice but boring and so sold it as it was "darted" by some jealous pi$$head coming out a local pub.

You can`t beat owning a year or more older car which has lost it`s car tax and has had it`s reliability sorted by previous owners, sadly that cannot be held so much today as in the past as there are so many recalls as the quality of manufacturing has really gone down the pan even more so once known as a quality marque Mercedes. They jumped on the band wagon of MPV`s and the smaller motor which left the more prized models wanting the quality they once had.

I have been through the thought of a newer motor time and time again but always come back to the same one and that is better the one you know than the one you don`t.
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Old Jan 19th, 2018, 13:41   #16
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My son gets a new car on PCP every two years. Mr VW rings him up at 21 months or so and sweet talks him to swap his low mileage one owner (still 12 months on the warranty) car for the latest model. It sort of makes sense for him, especially as he is now seriously looking to change from a Passat 1.6TDi to a 1.4TSi, the TSi having recently been released.
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Volvo S80, ten years old, monthly average costs for repairs, £200. Brand new VW Golf, car loan just over £200. Running costs, insurance, tax, fuel, tyres pretty much everything is less for the Golf and by some margin.
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Must be some manky old S80 if it needs on average £200 month spent on it.
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Old Jan 19th, 2018, 16:30   #19
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I reckon most of the new 2016, 17, 18 cars you see, a lot of which are £30k-£60k+ must be on PCPs.
I think the same way, there are loads of 2017 cars on the roads, I was thinking recently "am I doing something wrong with my life" as I can't afford a new car.

Leasing is popular and goes hand in hand with the job market for young people on temporary contracts or whatever. The idea of 'fixed cost' motoring appeals to many and to be fair any of us with 10 year + cars do not know when the next big bill will hit us. My 2005 car has worked out very cheap to run for me so I consider myself lucky, it costs approx £90.00 per month in depreciation and servicing.

Young people also can't afford to buy a house so likely lease a car whilst living with mum & dad because that's what all their mates are doing. Monthly's are a big thing now; notice all the new car adds on TV only tell you how much the car is per month, even autotrader have a 'monthly cost' search criteria now.
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