£3.00 charge to enter ULEZ zone for ALL cars

[Familyman 90]

Originally Posted by Wagon Sailor

So you'd make freedom of movement available only to the rich?

I dont believe walking, cycling or public transport are the preserve of the rich...

I like cars as much as the next man, but the danger, pollution, and congestion for which they are responsible make a densely populated urban area about the last place any able bodied person should be driving a car. It's a combination of laziness, entitlement and intertia that keeps people doing so.

[Cull06]

Boris handed TFL over to his replacement with a £9 billion debt. But yes blame Sadiq Khan.

The conservatives over the past decade plus running the country got rid of 20,000 police officers. But yes blame Sadiq Khan when crime goes up…

As for getting triggered about cycle lanes. I can’t help you you need to see a professional about that anger issue.

[JJD1]

Originally Posted by george57l

The goal posts that you put in place to take a swing at LT and the congestion zone being extended (fair enough, this is a 'Volvo and General Motoring Discussions' forum) and then - when it was pointed out what had in fact happened to cause that - that you then immediately moved to be just about your dislike of the London Mayor more generally (and not appropriate for a 'Volvo and General Motoring Discussions' thread).

Those goal posts. The ones you moved when someone called you out with some facts to counter your assumption that an extension of the congestion charge was the Mayor's fault, providing a citation that it was as much the doing of the govt and Boris taking revenge on LT and a Mayor he detests.

I hope you can see which goal posts now.

And if you'd actually read the link I provided you might be a bit more circumspect about continuing to claim that the Mayor "then wants to charge the people more for what they have already paid for" - he has no choice, the govt has predetermined this as part of the conditions for helping LT with its financial problems. But you ignore that and continue your tired and inaccurate rant.

Goodnight.

GoodMorning . So Boris put the daft cycle lanes in and removed a working lane that had moving traffic and speeded up driving through London etc ? Just to keep a few cyclist happy . But clogging streets with trucks and cars ? And If Boris hates the pathetic Mayor ,Then Thats fine with me. The mayor will make the decision and Boris is right to challenge him. When we have basic trained drivers earning north of £50k a year .This is a example of where running costs can be made . I know 4 airline pilots who's training cost a lot more . Who really are trained and hold peoples lives in their hands etc . They struggle to earn £28k a year . Ban the Unions for a start and start stripping these silly wages /pensions will at least go someway to helping TFL issues

[JJD1]

Originally Posted by Cull06

Boris handed TFL over to his replacement with a £9 billion debt. But yes blame Sadiq Khan.

The conservatives over the past decade plus running the country got rid of 20,000 police officers. But yes blame Sadiq Khan when crime goes up…

As for getting triggered about cycle lanes. I can’t help you you need to see a professional about that anger issue.

Then you have zero idea of how they made congestion worse

[Cull06]

Originally Posted by JJD1

Then you have zero idea of how they made congestion worse

London traffic from where I’m sitting is as bad as it’s always been (ie Bad).

Fact is you have over 9,000 people dying prematurely each year in London due to air pollution and emissions.

So the bigger picture (which I know you’ll find hard to hear doesn’t include you) is of course to reduce congestion and instead improve access to those cycling (none of the central-ish London residents I know have a car in any case).

Anyway:

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/2190...rhighways/amp/

“No evidence that London’s Cycle Superhighways worsen traffic congestion

A new analysis finds special London cycle lanes, which aim to boost commuting by bicycle, do not negatively impact traffic speed.

The analysis is one of the first to assess the impact of Cycle Superhighways (CSs) on traffic congestion in London.“

[Tannaton]

I'm not up to speed with the congestion issues in London but one thing Sadiq Khan has done which I find ridiculous and very much a "bash at boris" stunt was he scrapped the water canons that Boris acquired after the 2011 riots for a peanuts amount of money. They would have been the most effective way of controlling order in the recent BLM and other disturbances and stinky rebellion bother.

That was idiotic.

[Cull06]

Originally Posted by Tannaton

I'm not up to speed with the congestion issues in London but one thing Sadiq Khan has done which I find ridiculous and very much a "bash at boris" stunt was he scrapped the water canons that Boris acquired after the 2011 riots for a peanuts amount of money. They would have been the most effective way of controlling order in the recent BLM and other disturbances and stinky rebellion bother.

That was idiotic.

He scrapped them after the then conservative government banned their use in 2015.

But yes let’s blame Sadiq Khan.

[Tannaton]

Originally Posted by Cull06

He scrapped them after the then conservative government banned their use in 2015.

But yes let’s blame Sadiq Khan.

Theresa May refused to issue a license for them to be used England or Wales when the was the home secretary, but they are still licensed and used in Northern Ireland - silly cow.

Given Boris bought them, and he was now the PM, I can't imagine a license wouldn't have been granted in new world.

They were being stored free of charge and being used for training of the NI Police when they were scrapped - it was a Boris Bashing stunt that cost the rate payers and TFL users over £300k.

For me it's not about whether you have socialist or conservative views, many of Sadiq's decisions are clearly based on point scoring politics and posturing and not the best interests of London residents and workers. I nearly vomit when I hear the radio adverts that end in "To the mayor of London and TFL...." he's just on a big ego trip, I expect one day he will be running for leader of the Labour party.

So yes, for the reasons explained above, I firmly blame Sadiq Khan.

[Cull06]

Originally Posted by Tannaton

Theresa May refused to issue a license for them to be used England or Wales when the was the home secretary, but they are still licensed and used in Northern Ireland - silly cow.

Given Boris bought them, and he was now the PM, I can't imagine a license wouldn't have been granted in new world.

They were being stored free of charge and being used for training of the NI Police when they were scrapped - it was a Boris Bashing stunt that cost the rate payers and TFL users over £300k.

For me it's not about whether you have socialist or conservative views, many of Sadiq's decisions are clearly based on point scoring politics and posturing and not the best interests of London residents and workers. I nearly vomit when I hear the radio adverts that end in "To the mayor of London and TFL...." he's just on a big ego trip, I expect one day he will be running for leader of the Labour party.

So yes, for the reasons explained above, I firmly blame Sadiq Khan.

Sadiq Khan had selling the water cannons as a key pledge in his manifesto. Londoners voted him in. I’m pretty certain on that alone that Londoners considered in their interest that they wanted the water cannons gone! How bizarre to claim otherwise(?).

Claiming that Boris as PM would have unilaterally unbanned them (taking away the license to use is akin to a ban I’m afraid) is pure speculation.

Khan was attacked by the Boris-supporting right wing for not selling the ‘useless’ water cannons up until the point he had actually done so!

But yes. Let’s blame Sadiq Khan.

[JJD1]

Originally Posted by Tannaton

I'm not up to speed with the congestion issues in London but one thing Sadiq Khan has done which I find ridiculous and very much a "bash at boris" stunt was he scrapped the water canons that Boris acquired after the 2011 riots for a peanuts amount of money. They would have been the most effective way of controlling order in the recent BLM and other disturbances and stinky rebellion bother.

That was idiotic.

To be fair to The current Mayor .The cannons did not fully function , Boris was sold lemons .And then we have the legal issues for their use .