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Can I use 5W-30 instead of 0W-30Views : 985 Replies : 18Users Viewing This Thread : |
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Aug 13th, 2022, 20:47 | #11 | |
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Garages use new oil because they do servicing regularly, so they turn over oil stock regularly. Cars usually (but not always) have annual services specified because, but not limited to, oil degradation because extreme heating and cooling over the course of a year, and because condensation occurs inside an engine when it gets cold, which is unhelpful to oil longevity. Oh, and because it makes them money, perhaps. These things don't happen to sealed containers of oil on a garage shelf. The OP's not going to wreck his engine. |
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Aug 13th, 2022, 20:55 | #12 | |
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You have to remember it's not always the engine alone the spec is protecting, oils now are designed to limit dpf clogging, get between micron thin gaps and still have the balls to deal with the normal engine cycles, XC's car has a complex engine and has a history of egr and ring problems so I'd just err on it and bite the fresh oil route meeself |
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Aug 13th, 2022, 22:14 | #13 |
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I have used Mobil 1 ESP ( Low Ash for the DPF ) 5w-30 for the last 12 years in 3 D5's and never had the slightest issue.
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Aug 14th, 2022, 00:05 | #14 |
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I’ve used Comma XTech 5w30 for a similar period in my D5s, T5s and 2.0D’s… only side effect was a slightly heavier wallet after each change….
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Aug 14th, 2022, 22:08 | #15 |
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Can I just say, people worry too much.
Maybe we've been conditioned that way, me included. VW Group has made a squillion cars than run on 5W 30 It will be fine and dandy didmont. |
Aug 14th, 2022, 22:37 | #16 | |
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It's not that cut n' dried I'm afraid, the VW engines both PD & CR needed the "right" oil, VAG outdid itself building complex engine that were in effect tighter than a nuns reproductive organ, the cam to follower was the best example where if the wrong oil was in there it simply wouldn't make it between the two components, I'm almost certain my Passat 2.0 PD turbo started overboosting and wailing @ 45k because I used Dexos II in it thinking at the time very much the same way as you are now, Quite honesty the last time they made a great engine it had a 1900cc capacity, since then it's been very high oil consumption and bore washing issues, added to failing oil pump hex drives, injectors, dmf (had a small 1.0L loaner with 14k on the clock, flywheel rattling on idle) dsg mechatronic failure, dsg clutch pack warping in dry boxes dsg oil they couldn't decide on mineral or synth oil for the dry box, the list goes on and on, so if anyone wants a VW make it a Santana GX5 from 1985 or it's similar cousin the Audi 80 Sport with Audi rings on the doors **** yeah! |
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Aug 15th, 2022, 09:28 | #17 |
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Not sure why there is so much discussion over this, it will be 100% ok, a lot of cars start life at one grade then dealer revises it later on, the vw pd engines started off at 10w40 semi synthetic for example, this revision in a lot of cases due to links with oil suppliers etc,if the car is under factory warranty then better stick to dealer service etc, the dealers have trading deals with certain oil companies etc, the dealers/garages are ONLY interested in the revenue generated in the workshop, after almost 30 years in the motor trade I can guarantee that is the case, servicing generates a regular revenue stream with the bonus of hitting you for the hard sell, brake discs, pads, suspension bushes etc which in most case would last a lot longer………
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Aug 15th, 2022, 10:10 | #18 | |
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The PD engine came in various forms, all called PD but not the same engine at all, the 1.9's were generally inline and the later 2.0's were transverse and having had both in different models I can assure you they didn't even look similar, As I've replied on this a few times I'll make this my final answer on the matter, if someone wants to use the wrong spec/grade oil so be it but I don't advise it as it goes deeper than a sales pitch no griping later when your cams and cranks sound like a drummer doing a bad solo because the bloke on a forum said it was ok, it's got a whole lot more complex since things got added to an engine that older ones of 20 years ago didn't require, you can put any oil in any engine but 5-30k later you'll know why you shouldn't have. |
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Aug 15th, 2022, 10:34 | #19 |
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