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Jun 27th, 2019, 11:14 | #1 |
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Diagnose these plugs
Plugs removed from B20b. What's your diagnoses of the state of engine?
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Jun 27th, 2019, 18:43 | #2 |
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Is this a quiz?
Hard to tell, but you're burning oil or running rich. Since #1 looks OK, probably burning oil. But where is it coming from? rings? valves? Any symptoms? |
Jun 27th, 2019, 19:15 | #3 |
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Been "re ringed" recently. Most likely valves. Yes I like to run on the rich side.
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Jun 27th, 2019, 21:35 | #4 |
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Did you break in your piston rings correctly? I've never done it for a Volvo engine, but had for the MGA several times. I run the engine at variable speeds between say 2,000 and 4,500 rpm and coast against the engine often by lifting. That creates a back pressure that helps seat the rings. I'm pretty aggressive with it and can get them seated in about 100 miles.
I'm assuming you have dual carbs. #1 and #2 should look the same if it is a carb adjustment problem. To me it looks like #1 is clean and #2 is sooty, as are #3 and #4. You might be getting oil leaking down the valve stems. But that would be most apparent with a puff of smoke when you start the engine. |
Jun 27th, 2019, 22:05 | #5 |
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They are not wet with oil just far too rich, unless you have been doing cold running at low speed . You cant do a reliable visual plug test unless you turn off the engine whilst still at speed and coast to a stop and take the plugs out ..
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Jun 28th, 2019, 07:04 | #6 |
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I agree with Clan way way too rich a mixture .
When the engine has been for a long run , check them again & the ceramic nose should be almost the colour of a rich tea biscuit maybe as dark as a digestive biscuit ( a nice light brown ) . Strange colour comparisons , but an easy one to grasp (especially with a drink of tea ! ) Running the engine that rich will wash oil from the bores accelerating wear . It would be interesting to perform an emissions test just to see how far off the chart the mixture is
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Jun 28th, 2019, 08:43 | #7 |
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Thanks all. I usually do lift pin test for mixture but that can sometimes be a bit iffy. I will try "leaning" by one flat.I also suspect valves and plan to have replacement head later in year with hardened seats.
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Jun 28th, 2019, 11:54 | #8 |
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Take the dashpots off and with a Vernier caliper measure the distance between the top of the jet and the bridge.
When I first tuned my carbs, the rear carburetor was set at .135”, the front one at about .13”. I reset the jets on both carburetors to .10”. One flat seemed good for about .01”. That adjustment eliminated a lot of fumes. But of course, I couldn't leave well enough alone and leaned the carbs out further, probably to .08" or .09”. In March, in a delusional moment when I thought I might get the car on the road, I started up the engine and was getting a symptom in the carbs that sounded like a dog sneezing. So after I had the car running for half an hour or so, I did a plug check and my plugs looked far too lean. So I need to re-adjust and will probably shoot for 0.10" or maybe 0.11" as my assumed sweet spot. In the grand scheme of things, running rich is not beneficial. |
Jun 29th, 2019, 10:42 | #9 |
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Did compression test this morning with hot engine. Results. Number 1 cylinder 9 psi. 2-3-4. 10 psi Any comments? Should i repeat with cold engine? B20b engine. 240000 km
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