1800: - 1800E Headlining

LawsonJD · Jun 9th, 2021, 10:11

Hi.
I've got to make a complete headlining from scratch and I don't have the original or a flipping clue how the thing is constructed, got the material but that's it, any pointers very welcome.
Firstly did the original have a frame, wooden or metal or whatever?
Also those cross pieces, 34 & 35, were they some sort of sprung metal bars?
God knows where I'll get those from.
Thanks very much.
David Lawson.

mike gilbert · Jun 9th, 2021, 10:27

Yes the original headlining has a (flimsy) wooden frame running around the outside which is hidden when the headlining is in place. The clips (37) holding the headlning to the roof are attached to the frame. The bows are sewn into sleeves in the back of the headlining and obviously have to have exactly the correct length and 'bow' in them. Without any of the pieces it will be very difficult to replicate. It is essentially the same as a post '65 1800S headlining except for the hole for the rear view mirror. Have a word with Richard Feltham, he has vast experience with trimming P1800's and might be able to help. https://www.specialist-upholstery.com/

LawsonJD · Jun 9th, 2021, 13:43

Thanks I know Richard, he did my seats.
And a superb job of my dash.

LawsonJD · Jun 11th, 2021, 16:02

Panic over, the headlining frame and cross bars have been found, whew.
The frame is in pretty poor nick but at least I have a pattern to remake one.
The retaining clips have all disintegrated during its' removal though, parts manual lists part No 666171 but I can't find any, VP list them as discontinued.
Anyone been here and found others that might fit?
Thanks very much.
David lawson.

Derek UK · Jun 12th, 2021, 13:43

Do you happen to have one clip that can be used as a pattern or compared to something similar that can be used as an alternative? Picture? It probably wouldn't faze a company that fits headlining's.

LawsonJD · Jun 12th, 2021, 15:41

Hi Derek.
That's what I'm thinking, going to go over on Monday and see.
Might have just been mislaid.
David.

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Jun 9th, 2021, 10:27	#2
mike gilbert Master Member Last Online: Yesterday 12:52 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Peterborough View Photos By: mike gilbert	Yes the original headlining has a (flimsy) wooden frame running around the outside which is hidden when the headlining is in place. The clips (37) holding the headlning to the roof are attached to the frame. The bows are sewn into sleeves in the back of the headlining and obviously have to have exactly the correct length and 'bow' in them. Without any of the pieces it will be very difficult to replicate. It is essentially the same as a post '65 1800S headlining except for the hole for the rear view mirror. Have a word with Richard Feltham, he has vast experience with trimming P1800's and might be able to help. https://www.specialist-upholstery.com/

Jun 9th, 2021, 13:43	#3
LawsonJD Member Last Online: Yesterday 14:47 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne	Thanks I know Richard, he did my seats. And a superb job of my dash.

Jun 11th, 2021, 16:02	#4
LawsonJD Member Last Online: Yesterday 14:47 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne	Panic over, the headlining frame and cross bars have been found, whew. The frame is in pretty poor nick but at least I have a pattern to remake one. The retaining clips have all disintegrated during its' removal though, parts manual lists part No 666171 but I can't find any, VP list them as discontinued. Anyone been here and found others that might fit? Thanks very much. David lawson.

Jun 12th, 2021, 13:43	#5
Derek UK VOC Member Last Online: Yesterday 17:06 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chatham	Do you happen to have one clip that can be used as a pattern or compared to something similar that can be used as an alternative? Picture? It probably wouldn't faze a company that fits headlining's.

Jun 12th, 2021, 15:41	#6
LawsonJD Member Last Online: Yesterday 14:47 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne	Hi Derek. That's what I'm thinking, going to go over on Monday and see. Might have just been mislaid. David.

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