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XC60 stolen from driveway

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Old Dec 17th, 2018, 21:30   #21
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The pouch blocks the signal completely. You can place the pouch on the door and the car won't open.

It's slightly inconvenient getting the fob in and out of the pouch each time but it does completely mitigate the risk of the relay attack.
Pouch stops key working regardless of location so will a tin try it old baccy tins are ideal lead lined if you are paranoid....
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Old Dec 17th, 2018, 21:45   #22
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Sorry for your loss and have to say your experience of Police response mirrors my own

We keep our keys in a pouch inside a tin overnight. I did try taking the pouch we bought up to the car with the key in and it still unlocked though..... maybe a bit too cheap!

I don’t carry the pouch round all day - defeats the purpose of keyless entry. I also agree with the other person who says at least keeping them in a tin means they don’t lose the keys around the house!

A few weeks ago I came home in pouring rain and in the hurry to get the kids inside left the keys on the passenger seat. Wifey came home, saw the car was unlocked and locked it with her key. Interesting that it locked successfully - glad nobody came around that night.

I would also recommend cameras outside the house. We have three covering the driveway and can see everything. I catch the Amazon man leaving parcels on the doorstep and not even knocking!
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Old Dec 17th, 2018, 22:08   #23
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Having recently sold my Discovery 4 and now got a XC90 I out of habit just put my keys in a pouch at night. It really is no biggie and it will save the car. I know 2 people local to me, one a disco and one a merc had their cars stolen with no actual break in.

I know this does not help the loss here for which I am gutted for you but it is worth doing.

This is just the new way to steal cars
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Old Dec 17th, 2018, 22:11   #24
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When a second key is locked in the car it is disabled until the car is unlocked.

I must agree with BiggyG- carrying a key in a blocking pouch kind of defeats the purpose of having keyless entry.. And it’s highly unlikely they will use a relay antenna in front of a bar where you’re having a pint after work.. Realistically- the biggest risk is in the driveway- so keeping your keeys as far as possible from doors/windows/external walls + a metal box seems like the best way to prevent this from happening.. Or living in an apartment 6 floors up, like myself

On a positive note- this is props to Volvo- finally they are as popular with thieves as the german competitors
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Sorry to hear this.

Frankly none of the OEM trackers are any use, the thieves have selected your car and will have done their homework, they know exactly how to nobble all factory fitted trackers as theyre all the same.

Volvo can track the vehicle in motion if you have a crime reference, or if it follows a received remote alarm.

I simply wouldn’t have another keyless entry vehicle, there just isnt enough security in the systems.

An Illy coffee tin sorts it,
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My friends with Mercedes and BMW all have 90’s style steering wheel locks, a nearby neighbour almost lost a Lexus was found in the middle of the road at 5am doors open after he parked it on his drive on a Sunday evening.
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I simply wouldn’t have another keyless entry vehicle, there just isnt enough security in the systems.
Right. As you need to be gifted to know how to short the wires to get a car started. And coathangers for door opening are really hard to come by these days.. Putting padlocks on your doors will cost the thiefs another 30sec- so why not.. it may add up to a whole minute longer, compared to a keyless entry car..
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There isn’t a car made you can’t steal but relay attacks are making it incredibly easy to steal the whole car intact and pass it off as genuine.

Software security is massively important for many reasons and supposed master locksmiths accepting cash depositis for the software hacking devices shipped from overseas doesn’t help....

Stoplock sales will be looking up
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There isn’t a car made you can’t steal but relay attacks are making it incredibly easy to steal the whole car intact and pass it off as genuine.

Software security is massively important for many reasons and supposed master locksmiths accepting cash depositis for the software hacking devices shipped from overseas doesn’t help....

Stoplock sales will be looking up
I have a 20 year old Disklock which I use on the motorhome but if i go to London and take the Volvo I take it with me as a bit of extra security. It still feels properly solid.....
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I've just ordered a Faraday pouch as both our cars "keyless"''
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