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Long term reliability 10yrs on.

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Old Mar 16th, 2019, 13:09   #1
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Default Long term reliability 10yrs on.

My S80 2.0D SE Lux is now 10 years old. I've had it from new. Did 10k miles per year early on, now my mileage has reduced significantly so in total I'm up to 65k. I know early on a lot of folks were suspicious about Ford cost-cutting and the effect it would have on reliability long term. The car has just sailed through its 10th annual service and MOT. Always serviced at a main dealer.

After a decade's ownership I can reflect on how things have gone so far. In the first 6 months I had to have the sloshing water behind the bulkhead fix and the camshaft sensor needed to be replaced. Since then it's just been routine servicing, 2 sets of tyres and rear brake pads. The main Ford weak point seems to be the rear trailing arm bushes which have been an advisory on my MOT for the past 3 years but are still soldiering on.

Is my experience typical?

Doubtless, having shared my experience something expensive will fall off or go bang next week...
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My S80 2.0D SE Lux is now 10 years old. I've had it from new. Did 10k miles per year early on, now my mileage has reduced significantly so in total I'm up to 65k. I know early on a lot of folks were suspicious about Ford cost-cutting and the effect it would have on reliability long term. The car has just sailed through its 10th annual service and MOT. Always serviced at a main dealer.

After a decade's ownership I can reflect on how things have gone so far. In the first 6 months I had to have the sloshing water behind the bulkhead fix and the camshaft sensor needed to be replaced. Since then it's just been routine servicing, 2 sets of tyres and rear brake pads. The main Ford weak point seems to be the rear trailing arm bushes which have been an advisory on my MOT for the past 3 years but are still soldiering on.

Is my experience typical?

Doubtless, having shared my experience something expensive will fall off or go bang next week...
To be honest i am not sure what your point is? 65,000 miles is not a test for a vehicle, Ford warrant there cheapest vehicles for 60k and even tvr And rovers last 65k. Once you can stick a 2 in the front, I.e. 265k then you can talk reliability...
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Old Mar 16th, 2019, 23:58   #3
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I think adsk still has a point to make as as we all know even new cars can have inherent problems of which some can have serious safety issues. Long term reliability starts on day one of the car's use and continues till it's demise. It's all about Terotechnology.
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Old Mar 17th, 2019, 02:48   #4
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10 years problem free it’s not average. I wonder how the car feels after 10 years. Is it still solid feeling? Or is it lose like a whore after 10 Years of work...?
My v70 is 20 Years old and there are no ruttles or banging in the cabin. Feels very well put together. I am at 136k miles, pretty much same yearly miles average of yours.
Same for my 30 years old 240 ( but rattles in the cabin are common).
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Old Mar 17th, 2019, 07:27   #5
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Any vehicle of any age is as reliable as the maintenance carried out on it.

If one belives in preventative maintenance then things get changed as soon as wear is spotted and not when they fail, therefore the car is reliable.
If one ignores the signs and only looks at the car once a year then expect trouble to hit at an in opertunity time like half way up a motorway.

26 year old landrover, 205,000 miles on the clock and I know it will fire up and take me wherever I want at any time I want it to, because it's maintained and looked at regularly, similarly the 10 year old 75,000 mile volvo.

Look at trucks, 6 weekly Safety Maintenance Inspection and a million hard work miles on them.

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Old Mar 17th, 2019, 09:52   #6
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Yes and no.
yes if you run maintenance cost regardless, any car will run forever.
No Landy will run 10 Years just with services.as many other cars.
Old Volvos are bit different.
My current 240, 205k miles still run on its original starter motor, alternator and battery is there from 10 Years
Replaced absorbers after 160k miles.
Same for my v70 ( but just 136k on the clock).
I think the point here I to compare new volvo of Ford Era to the Volvo before Ford.
10 Years free of problem without extra maintenance is proof of reliability.
We just need to see how long it will take for parts start failing.
Trough the course of years I have noticed how other cars are reliable and the moment one piece start failing everything else fails following.
With (old) Volvo I have experienced if something fails and you replace it you ll
be fine for another long time.
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My S80 2.0D SE Lux is now 10 years old. I've had it from new. Did 10k miles per year early on, now my mileage has reduced significantly so in total I'm up to 65k. I know early on a lot of folks were suspicious about Ford cost-cutting and the effect it would have on reliability long term. The car has just sailed through its 10th annual service and MOT. Always serviced at a main dealer.

After a decade's ownership I can reflect on how things have gone so far. In the first 6 months I had to have the sloshing water behind the bulkhead fix and the camshaft sensor needed to be replaced. Since then it's just been routine servicing, 2 sets of tyres and rear brake pads. The main Ford weak point seems to be the rear trailing arm bushes which have been an advisory on my MOT for the past 3 years but are still soldiering on.

Is my experience typical?

Doubtless, having shared my experience something expensive will fall off or go bang next week...
I have an 07 D5, S80 and like yourself I am no longer doing the miles I used to do. Now at 81,000. Car is in excellent condition, full service history, and, touch wood, has been very reliable. Normally i would change my car after 3 years but here we are at nearly six years and I don't see the point of changing as I don't think I would get anything better. So I'm quite sure it will last a few years yet.
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My S80 2.0D SE Lux is now 10 years old. I've had it from new. Did 10k miles per year early on, now my mileage has reduced significantly so in total I'm up to 65k. I know early on a lot of folks were suspicious about Ford cost-cutting and the effect it would have on reliability long term. The car has just sailed through its 10th annual service and MOT. Always serviced at a main dealer.

After a decade's ownership I can reflect on how things have gone so far. In the first 6 months I had to have the sloshing water behind the bulkhead fix and the camshaft sensor needed to be replaced. Since then it's just been routine servicing, 2 sets of tyres and rear brake pads. The main Ford weak point seems to be the rear trailing arm bushes which have been an advisory on my MOT for the past 3 years but are still soldiering on.

Is my experience typical?

Doubtless, having shared my experience something expensive will fall off or go bang next week...
Sounds similar to my experience. V70 SE Lux D5, 156k, registered Dec 2017. I've done the following, not due to MOT failure, but because they annoyed me:
Windscreen replaced due to leak (common)
Rear trailing arm bushes (squeaking)
Replaced swirl flap assembly (improved efficiency)

The only failure was wiring to the camshaft sensor (nothing wrong with sensor itself). And a coolant hose near the EGR sprang a leak to due becoming perished (due to excess oily gunge in that area).

Most recently, the rear brake calipers were binding a bit, so they needed a bit of TLC to get them moving again.

I also have a Focus 1.6TDCi estate 2010, 55k owned since new. Here's the list of parts that have needed replacing:
Alternator
Window washer pump

I'm not worried about having Ford parts in my Volvo.

It would be nice to be clear which parts are Ford, and which are Volvo, as I'd read conflicting information about this. From what I can tell, Volvo built the body, engine/gearbox, wheel rims, seats, interior etc...and Ford did the brakes, plastic engine parts, electrics, suspension, driveshafts/axles/hubs
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2007’ S80 D5 here, most reliable car I have ever owned

Usual consumables, tyres, brakes batteries, the odd drop link and rear trailing arm bushes replaced.

The only 3 items that have failed on me were the left hand indicator stalk with the rotary control for the trip computer, a parking sensor due water ingress and the steering lock which needed replacing.

Age gets to cars more than mileage I believe. Currently on 240k km which I have put 145k of them on it in the last 4.5 years. Most reliable car with the best seats I’ve owned. Had a L322 Range Rover previously and the seats are better than those over long journeys. I’ve considered changing it for something newer but the reliability and comfort means I keep deciding to keep it,

Great car

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Old Mar 28th, 2019, 00:47   #10
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Good news for me so far. '09 XC70 D5 geartronic with 150k. FVSH to 125k then Volvo independent.

Usual consumables; tyres, brakes, battery and trailing arm bushes at 145k. ATF changed at 130k. Might need a drop link soon and headlights flicker occasionally.

Otherwise feels like it will go on forever. Love it!
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