Hybrid Turbos by Dan Jones. Article No 5 in a Series by Experts in the Industry

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Why are you unwilling?

Is it based on a 19T with a 15G/16T bit bolted on?

Regards

Iain

>Why are you unwilling?

Company policy.

Adam.

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If you are quoting your company policy and state that you can not give an informed answer to my question, please could you post/email link to your website for us all to read!

Were you a politician in a previous life? As they have problems answering questions too!!

People come to these forums to get information about parts etc, so how can you refuse to supply this information. Do you not need the business?

All i'm asking is for a few details about the turbo not for a complete blue print.

Regards

Iain

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For goodness sake Iain, take it easy! Turbo Technics won't tell you what's in their hybrids (I know because we've tried!!), so stop making out Adam is the bad guy here!

The industry standard proceedure if you're buying a hybrid turbo *for a certain car* (e.g. "I want a hybrid for a Sierra Cosworth please") is that the details are top secret. If have the knowledge to specify yourself, say you want a T3/T4 hybrid with a .60 trim (A/R) exhaust wheel and a .96 trim (A/R) compressor wheel (which would be fairly bad-ass...and good for (at a guess) 500+ brake on a T5...although it'd not have instant spool-up!), they'll build it for you, but don't expect the same treatment if you want their advice!

I don't know many people who are in a position to specify a turbo with confidence that it'll be a good match for their application. Most who do have bought a lot of snails over the years and have learned by trial and error.

I'm not saying I agree with it, but it's the same at most 'turbo shops'.

cheers

James

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Ok let me word it another way... Is volvotunings so called Hybrid made of a 19T with either parts from a 15 or 16 bolted on?

Simple question....not asking for any secrets.

But as I have already said how can you sell something if you won't tell anyone whats in it?

For example would you buy a PC not knowing its spec?


Regards

Iain

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If it did what I want it to do, then yes.

Adam.

[foggyjames]

It will be a Mitsubishi TD04H(L?)-19T, in the same way that the TT hybrid is a Garrett T25 (I think). Neither manufacturer has given more information than that, and neither are they obliged to, or anyone could 'steal' their hard-earned research material and make one up on the cheap.

The 'hybrid' part usually means different wheel trim sizes in stock housings for the turbo on which it is based (i.e. 19T or T25), although in the case of a T3/T4, it means half of a T3 (exhaust housing) and half of a T4 (compressor housing). The precise 'tune' of the trim sizes of the wheels is the clever, secret bit.

I admit that TT's literature hardly helps promote accurate knowledge of the subject, but maybe that's not really the point when you're paying a performance specialist to plan the work for you? Or to put it another way, what's the point in asking if you don't know what the answer means?

Usually, turbo companies trade on their reputations when it comes to hybrids. You trust that x or y company knows their stuff...or not! The Bayjoo hybrid for a Cosworth, for example, is a well trusted piece of kit.

On the face of it, I'd go with TT, as they are the daddies...but then the 19T (even) in non-hybrid form is known to work well. It pretty much comes down to price, quality, and trust in the reputation of the seller.

My *suspicion* on the hybrid 19T is that it features a larger exhaust wheel, as the TD04 family have relatively small exhaust sides. Good for fast spool-up, but beyond a certain performance level, the smaller housing and wheels will prove to be a restriction.

Having said all of this, I'm really not a turbo man at all...yet...hehe...

cheers

James

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Iain,

Adam probably doesnt want to digress any information on the turbo so others dont copy it or find the manufacturer of the turbo and buy direct ie losing him a sale. Understandable isnt it?

Simon

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I can see where your coming from but i cannot see why he is so defensive about it.A simple Yes or No to my question about it being part 19 and/or 15/16 would not have been hard to give.

Aslo Adam I have a pc for you to buy that will let you surf the web and edit stuff it's yours for £1000... does it do what you need it to? Do you know what else it can do? Will it be compatible with future software, is it running windows 95/98/2000 me or xp or even xp pro. See buying things is knowing about what it can and cannot do.

I would never buy anything without knowing more information about it. Thats why I ask questions all the time, for my sake and others.


Regards

Iain

P.s little joke about the pc.......lol

[Dan F]

>No but they are using a standard VOLVO turbo.

Sorry, read my post again:
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Can I also point out (while I think of it) with regard to Dan from TTs view that a 19T is a standard turbo..... and that is, that the 19T is only standard on one model of Volvo, and that is the V70R AWD AUTO MY2000.

On any other Volvo it is an upgrade.

You hear of plenty of T4s, for example, having 19Ts as upgrades. Are they still standard in that setup? Er, no.
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The standard turbo on any car, is the one fitted to it in the factory. That is it.
Also a lot of people use 19Ts for upgrades on cars and bikes of various makes. They are not just made for Volvos. :)

Dan.