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Feb 4th, 2023, 22:33 | #1 |
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B230FT and M90 swap queries
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I'm dropping my 240 off to.my mechanic to swap the b200 in my 240 to a 940 B230ft with an M90 This is the 2nd time I've started working towards doing a swap. Last time I sold the car before I got things underway. I bought the car back about 2 years ago and have been planning to do the swap with some time but have come to the realisation that I probably lack the time and skills to do the swap so my mechanic is going to do it. I want to have everything there so he can get stuck in. I've a couple of items that I'm not sure of that I'd love to get some input. 1. I've a mocal remote filter and an oil cooler kit. Do I need a different stud where the filter normally screws on. 2. I have a dogfish flywheel and clutch. Do I need new bolts to mount the flywheel and clutch to the block? 3. I have the 940 prop shaft complete with carrier bearing and mount. Will this bolt up to the 240. 4. Rear mount for the m90 box. I've came across a mount on line. Is there a simpler solution? 5. I bought a LH 2.4 loom from Elbert Bos to simplify things. My car is a k jet. Will I need to swap the instrument cluster or will I be OK with the existing one. If anyone has any lessons learned from their swap they would like to share I'd love to hear them. |
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Feb 4th, 2023, 23:42 | #2 |
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in no order you will need to take the dissy off the back of the head and put it where your dissy is now so you will have to replace the oil pump drive take it from the engine you take out time for that job 1 1/2 hours look at https://www.davebarton.com/ for all your wiring stuff have you got both the fuel and spark ecu prop shaft its a cut and shut job front 940 weld the 240 one to it before the centre bearing only problem is the 940 one is bigger so you will have to make a slug to go in both props and weld it fly wheel make shore you get it in the right place or it will never start 4 dont understand ? oil filter jus use the stuff that on the b230 ft you will have fun with the steering column and exhaust intercooler ? MAF ? have you still got the hole 940 ? Last edited by grumpydad; Feb 4th, 2023 at 23:49. |
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Feb 5th, 2023, 10:23 | #3 | |
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Don't have the 940 but have its ecus, rad, intercooler and piping. Must check for the MAF. Spotted this morning that you can use an adaptor to.make the 240 prop long enough must look into that. |
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Feb 5th, 2023, 11:28 | #4 |
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You can reuse your original flywheel bolts, it is better to replace them but you can reuse them and thread lock them in. It's very easy to get it in the right place, set the engine to tdc (timing marks all lined up) and then put the flywheel on so the missing dimples are sat in the middle of the starter motor hole. You can get new flywheel and clutch bolts from Volvo still.
I'm not that good with 200 series specifics so the M90 gearbox mount might need cutting and welding in some way to fit a 200 series, if the one you found for sale online is from retro turbo then be careful as he is renowned for taking your money and nothing ever appearing, Dai at classic swede might have a bracket to suit. I think Dai might even do engine mounts/brackets to suit a turbo swap in a 200 series but I might have imagined that. |
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Feb 5th, 2023, 13:37 | #6 | |
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Thank you, I've got some parts from Dai in the past so will check in with him, |
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Feb 5th, 2023, 22:31 | #7 |
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I wrote this guide a while back that covers most of it. https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=290295 1. Stick with the oe setup on the 940 engine, no need for a remote filter etc. I have the standard 940 heat exchanger and oil filter adapter in place on my car- there’s enough room for the 2.5inch downpipe and the car doesn’t get hot even on trackdays. If you really want to then perhaps the tube from the 940’s 90 degree oil filter and heat exchanger adapter will work or search for a new one online. 2. As others have said, the bolts from your b200f flywheel will work or buy new ones 3. The front section of your existing (assuming your car is currently manual with an m47 5speed box?) propshaft needs to be extended by 50mm. Retro turbo used to sell a spacer to do this but they’ve ceased trading, so don’t send them any money. I’m not aware of any other suppliers of those spacers, so you’ll have to have your propshaft modified by a prop company. 4. A weld together adapter is available online that allows you to use a standard m47 rubber/poly mount and the mount to the standard gearbox crossmember. They’re about £35 and work perfectly. 5. Your instrument cluster is fine- my car was also k-jet before I swapped it. There is an output on the back of the speedo for the speed signal 2.4lh needs to activate the idle circuit when you come to a stop. Throw out any other questions you have, it’s a well trodden path now and a lot of people have converted 240s in the the U.K. so any issues you have will have been tackled before. Cheers |
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Feb 6th, 2023, 06:22 | #8 |
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Thank you. Would ypu believe with all my searching of the forum I had not come across your thread.
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Feb 6th, 2023, 08:33 | #9 |
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I can recommend the weld together rear mount from Dai. I also used the gearbox extension from retro turbo (pre brexit) - works well if you have a propshaft from a car with a M47 gearbox. Also, when shortening the linkage from gear stick to gearbox don't do what I did and make the lower link adjustable. I thought it would be a good idea to get the length spot on. It did that alright, but in use the constant twisting action it received eventually overcame the locknut and left me unable to get most gears! Tim |
Feb 6th, 2023, 12:08 | #10 |
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Also, up to you of course but given the benefit of hindsight I wouldn’t have a custom downpipe made to suit the standard 13c turbo from the 940, it has a conical outlet which is fairly unusual so when you want to change the turbo for a better one (you almost certainly will) you’ll have to modify/build another downpipe to suit.
Can you weld? Or is the garage going to make the downpipe for you along with the other work? Consider buying this 15g turbo- marginally bigger than the 13c from the 940, so still a small and quick spooling turbo. As the exhaust housing (hotside) of the 15g/16t/19t turbos are the same, you can unbolt the front half of the turbo and swap it for a different size- I did this when I swapped from a 15g to a 19t. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/394447977...mis&media=COPY And this which will bolt onto the outlet (the downpipe won’t fit a 240 of course, the point of buying this is just to cut it off and build a downpipe from it - that’s what I did when I swapped turbos which made it a lot easier) https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264335493...mis&media=COPY Attached photo of the downpipe I made when I swapped turbos from the 13c to the 15g- so that was the second downpipe I built for the car, it would have been easier to just build one for the 15g to start with. Cheers Last edited by Bugjam1999; Feb 6th, 2023 at 12:19. |
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