Does anyone know P1800 LPB 408K

Simon703 · Feb 16th, 2021, 15:02

I’m looking for a P1800 and found LPB 408k for sale with a dealer. Looks fantastic in video and the history seems very good. Looking forward to viewing it when lockdown over. In the meantime the dealer tells me that the previous owner was a regular at owners clubs events so I was wondering if anyone knows of this car?

Thanks
Simon

P1800 ES · Feb 17th, 2021, 08:11

Just seen this for sale on ebay. Looks like a very tidy car and nicely restored. It's local to me so I may go check it out if I can find the time. I'll report back if I do

Simon703 · Feb 17th, 2021, 11:17

If you do get the chance to check it out I’d be very grateful, it’s 150 miles and 3+ hours for me each way. And my technical knowledge is limited......
Many thanks.
Simon

P1800 ES · Feb 18th, 2021, 15:29

Will do. It's literally up the road from me, but time has been difficult this week.

There's a lot more photos of the car on their website. After looking at these there's a few things I would query. Pic 39 shows some serious bodyfiller on the sill. I wonder what's underneath it and how much more is on the car.

Also, the chrome strip down the side is really messing with my OCD. It's not lined up at all.

Looks like it's got new seat covers and carpet. The steering wheel is not correct for the car either and I'm not a fan of the bodycolour wheels.

Otherwise, it's nice. I like the colour combo, it looks pretty genuine and as though the previous owner has put some love into it.

https://oldcolonelcars.co.uk/listing...ouring-manual/

c1800 · Feb 18th, 2021, 16:14

“ Also, the chrome strip down the side is really messing with my OCD. It's not lined up at all.”

Because the doors are not aligned/hung properly. Have a close look at the gaps around the doors. Could be just worn out hinges, or worse. Could be a sign of poorly done body work and / or body damage.

Lots of undercoating possibly hiding some rot?

Simon703 · Feb 18th, 2021, 19:01

Thanks both, starting to feel like it’s over-priced. Be really interested to hear how it seems in the flesh. Really grateful of the offer to look at. At that price what would you expect? Would it be close to concours or should I expect some rot to get sorted?
Thanks both
Simon

cassell · Feb 18th, 2021, 19:09

It's clearly had quite a comprehensive appearance restoration with new carpets and the front seats appear to have been re-coloured rather than re-upholstered. Paintwork looks fresh and well-coated, seams are visible at the sides of the rear valance. There does appear to be an excess of thick underseal around the rear floorpan area which possibly just covers some patch welding?

Like the OCD comments about the trim alignment, I too have a pet hate, it's when restorer's paint the fuel filler flap in body colour rather than satin black as they were originally. Thankfully this one has been done properly!

A few observations from the photos, nothing serious but after 20+ years of ES ownership I notice little things: The centre console lid is missing, the jack is not a correct 1800 one, the sill welded seams where they meet the inner sill/floorpan are very wavy, the plumbing for the heater control valve is poorly done and looks incorrect, the driver's interior door handle is fitted upside down.

That's my observations, so in addition to the incorrect steering wheel already commented on, yes, in my opinion the roadwheels look awful in white!!

Only a thorough examination, mechanical appraisal and road test will determine whether this really is worth the £19k asking price, keep us informed of what you find.

Paul

Burdekin · Feb 18th, 2021, 19:30

Ask for any restoration photos, details and who did the resto, see if they are reputable and give them a call about the car.

Derek UK · Feb 18th, 2021, 23:35

It's at a dealer so of course it's overpriced. He might expect to have a 25% profit margin at that price. If he bought it in "restored" he probably paid £13-14k. Might have spent a bit on a comprehensive valet unless he does that himself. Some of these high end dealers don't even have a lift for you to check the underneath of the car. It's always buyer beware. If you go there to check it out have a good look round the stock and the pricing before looking at the Volvo. Don't seem too keen!

eternal optimist · Feb 19th, 2021, 10:36

Photo's 39, 41 and 42 don't inspire confidence. I'd be wanting to see pics of how it was before the body was painted.

I wouldn't touch it; it's not been done with any really care. I'd give it a couple of years and it will need doing again - properly.

Feb 16th, 2021, 15:02	#1
Simon703 Junior Member Last Online: Yesterday 20:20 Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Ross on Wye	Does anyone know P1800 LPB 408K I’m looking for a P1800 and found LPB 408k for sale with a dealer. Looks fantastic in video and the history seems very good. Looking forward to viewing it when lockdown over. In the meantime the dealer tells me that the previous owner was a regular at owners clubs events so I was wondering if anyone knows of this car? Thanks Simon

Feb 18th, 2021, 16:14	#5
c1800 Master Member Last Online: Apr 22nd, 2024 18:48 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Alberta	“ Also, the chrome strip down the side is really messing with my OCD. It's not lined up at all.” Because the doors are not aligned/hung properly. Have a close look at the gaps around the doors. Could be just worn out hinges, or worse. Could be a sign of poorly done body work and / or body damage. Lots of undercoating possibly hiding some rot? Last edited by c1800; Feb 18th, 2021 at 17:49.

Feb 18th, 2021, 19:30	#8
Burdekin Chief Bodger Last Online: Today 11:53 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Aberdeen	Ask for any restoration photos, details and who did the resto, see if they are reputable and give them a call about the car. __________________ One day I will get rid of all of the rust.

Feb 17th, 2021, 08:11	#2
P1800 ES Junior Member Last Online: Mar 17th, 2023 06:04 Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: St Albans	Just seen this for sale on ebay. Looks like a very tidy car and nicely restored. It's local to me so I may go check it out if I can find the time. I'll report back if I do

Feb 17th, 2021, 11:17	#3
Simon703 Junior Member Last Online: Yesterday 20:20 Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Ross on Wye	If you do get the chance to check it out I’d be very grateful, it’s 150 miles and 3+ hours for me each way. And my technical knowledge is limited...... Many thanks. Simon

Feb 18th, 2021, 15:29	#4
P1800 ES Junior Member Last Online: Mar 17th, 2023 06:04 Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: St Albans	Will do. It's literally up the road from me, but time has been difficult this week. There's a lot more photos of the car on their website. After looking at these there's a few things I would query. Pic 39 shows some serious bodyfiller on the sill. I wonder what's underneath it and how much more is on the car. Also, the chrome strip down the side is really messing with my OCD. It's not lined up at all. Looks like it's got new seat covers and carpet. The steering wheel is not correct for the car either and I'm not a fan of the bodycolour wheels. Otherwise, it's nice. I like the colour combo, it looks pretty genuine and as though the previous owner has put some love into it. https://oldcolonelcars.co.uk/listing...ouring-manual/

Feb 18th, 2021, 19:01	#6
Simon703 Junior Member Last Online: Yesterday 20:20 Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Ross on Wye	Thanks both, starting to feel like it’s over-priced. Be really interested to hear how it seems in the flesh. Really grateful of the offer to look at. At that price what would you expect? Would it be close to concours or should I expect some rot to get sorted? Thanks both Simon

Feb 18th, 2021, 19:09	#7
cassell Member since 1988 Last Online: Apr 23rd, 2024 19:28 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Middlewich	It's clearly had quite a comprehensive appearance restoration with new carpets and the front seats appear to have been re-coloured rather than re-upholstered. Paintwork looks fresh and well-coated, seams are visible at the sides of the rear valance. There does appear to be an excess of thick underseal around the rear floorpan area which possibly just covers some patch welding? Like the OCD comments about the trim alignment, I too have a pet hate, it's when restorer's paint the fuel filler flap in body colour rather than satin black as they were originally. Thankfully this one has been done properly! A few observations from the photos, nothing serious but after 20+ years of ES ownership I notice little things: The centre console lid is missing, the jack is not a correct 1800 one, the sill welded seams where they meet the inner sill/floorpan are very wavy, the plumbing for the heater control valve is poorly done and looks incorrect, the driver's interior door handle is fitted upside down. That's my observations, so in addition to the incorrect steering wheel already commented on, yes, in my opinion the roadwheels look awful in white!! Only a thorough examination, mechanical appraisal and road test will determine whether this really is worth the £19k asking price, keep us informed of what you find. Paul

Feb 18th, 2021, 23:35	#9
Derek UK VOC Member Last Online: Today 14:29 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chatham	It's at a dealer so of course it's overpriced. He might expect to have a 25% profit margin at that price. If he bought it in "restored" he probably paid £13-14k. Might have spent a bit on a comprehensive valet unless he does that himself. Some of these high end dealers don't even have a lift for you to check the underneath of the car. It's always buyer beware. If you go there to check it out have a good look round the stock and the pricing before looking at the Volvo. Don't seem too keen!

Feb 19th, 2021, 10:36	#10
eternal optimist Master Member Last Online: Apr 22nd, 2024 16:19 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Reading	Photo's 39, 41 and 42 don't inspire confidence. I'd be wanting to see pics of how it was before the body was painted. I wouldn't touch it; it's not been done with any really care. I'd give it a couple of years and it will need doing again - properly.

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