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How do you turbo a B200E?

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Old Nov 19th, 2012, 03:00   #11
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as far as i can gather you could fit a later 940 turbo manifold and turbo (guessing the lpt), make your own down pipe and adapt it to the 360 exhaust, 940 fule rail with fpr and injectors etc, a cheap intercooler, tap into the sump for oil return, not sure about the oil feed (think you possibly use were the oil pressure switch goes? Someone correct me as i wouldnt mind learning), boost pips and lines etc, and then some kind of standalone ecu but i dont know what one. At low boost i personaly wouldnt bother messing around with the compression and take it easy and see how it goes and maybe upgrade if you need it,
standard clutch should be fine i have part 360 and part 940 in my b230fk.

As said above you dont want to cut corners but imo you could build this with 70/80%scrap yard parts and a few bits off ebay and still do it well, get ya ecu setup professional and you should be good. Give it a try, sounds like a good little project, i wanted to do it to m 360 when i got it but the monkey i bought it off thought i new more about cars than he did and failed to tell me he had ***ed about with all sorts so i needed to change the lump and whent for a b230
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as far as i can gather you could fit a later 940 turbo manifold and turbo (guessing the lpt), make your own down pipe and adapt it to the 360 exhaust, 940 fule rail with fpr and injectors etc, a cheap intercooler, tap into the sump for oil return, not sure about the oil feed (think you possibly use were the oil pressure switch goes? Someone correct me as i wouldnt mind learning), boost pips and lines etc, and then some kind of standalone ecu but i dont know what one. At low boost i personaly wouldnt bother messing around with the compression and take it easy and see how it goes and maybe upgrade if you need it,
standard clutch should be fine i have part 360 and part 940 in my b230fk.

As said above you dont want to cut corners but imo you could build this with 70/80%scrap yard parts and a few bits off ebay and still do it well, get ya ecu setup professional and you should be good. Give it a try, sounds like a good little project, i wanted to do it to m 360 when i got it but the monkey i bought it off thought i new more about cars than he did and failed to tell me he had ***ed about with all sorts so i needed to change the lump and whent for a b230
Is there anyway to do this without using the ecu from another car as that brings up the problem of shipping an ECU, loom and flywheel over from UK.
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All of this is why i just went "pass" and brought a turbo 850. If i do turbo a 360 ima do it whiteblock style and try get rid of as much motronic as possible with a link.
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All of this is why i just went "pass" and brought a turbo 850. If i do turbo a 360 ima do it whiteblock style and try get rid of as much motronic as possible with a link.
I'm thinking bike carbs so no untidy ECU and loom etc then just do turbo + intercooler + oil cooling for turbo, it would be so much simpler this way.
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That's actually a good idea. needa find a gl though.
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Megasquirt. I don't know how many ECU's can deal with the 22-2-22-2 flywheel we have to deal with, but MS definitely can.
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Is there anyway to do this without using the ecu from another car as that brings up the problem of shipping an ECU, loom and flywheel over from UK.
Im not sure tbh mate as i dont know about that kinda thing, i wonder if a 2.0l 940 turbo one could some how be used to control the boost side of things.
There must be other ways, there used to be a guy called the turbo doctor who did cheap turbo conversions and he didnt even change the ecu or go into mapping and he got them to work, im not saying what he did was the way to do it but just shows there is ways

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Lowering the compression is good advice, although it is possible to keep the standard compression ratio if you keep the boost low (below 10psi), and fit programmable management so you can keep a really careful eye on the ignition timing (which will need to use less advance than standard). You certainly don't want to cut corners with engine management on the standard compression ratio, as the higher compression ratio will be unforgiving of inaccurate mapping.

It is possible to have something like Megasquirt decode the 44-2-2 timing pattern on the Renix flywheel, but it's not as 'standard' as the LH2.4 60-2 pattern. You could in theory have a standard blank flywheel (from a 240, for example) machined for a 60-2 pattern if you wanted to use LH2.4 management.

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You could also forget about having the right type of flywheels, use the one that comes with the b200e and just use a block mounted distributor with a hall effect sensor and use that to run wasted spark on megasquirt or any other programmable ecu system.
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I showed my brother this thread yesterday... his face said it all, he's just going to rebuild the engine and get the dents out so no turbo.
However I might try it myself when I get another 360 so if all the gurus on here put their minds together perhaps a "how to" thread on turboing the B200E could be made?
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