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Pushing my C30 T5 by hand along the driveway...

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Old Jun 16th, 2019, 15:21   #1
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Default Pushing my C30 T5 by hand along the driveway...

...requires MUCH more effort than other cars, why?

Sometimes I can't be bothered to start up my cars when I need to move them a little on the driveway so I'll just unlock, open, drop the handbrake and push them by hand a few feet. This is generally easy for the cars that might be on the drive: Golf, Clio, Qashqai, but the C30? It requires all my effort to move it just a little, but why??

I previously had a 4WD Audi that was really tough to move but figured that was down to the two diffs/4WD, but no such stuff on the Volvo. I have no symptoms of a sticky caliper but with new front calipers to go on imminently I'll get the rears checked out, but just wondered if anyone had any ideas?
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Yes I have found the same with my S40, and I do the same as you because I don't like starting the engine just to move a few feet. My drive is almost flat but the Volvo takes the most effort to shift.
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Yes I have found the same with my S40, and I do the same as you because I don't like starting the engine just to move a few feet. My drive is almost flat but the Volvo takes the most effort to shift.
Good to know. I wonder if there's some 'safety feature' that they have or if ABS 'mildly' applies the brakes when switched off? Very odd.
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Hahaha yes it's a good workout, try going for a day at santapod for the1/4 mile strip. 1/4 mile drag then a 1/4 mile push !!!!
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...requires MUCH more effort than other cars, why?

Sometimes I can't be bothered to start up my cars when I need to move them a little on the driveway so I'll just unlock, open, drop the handbrake and push them by hand a few feet. This is generally easy for the cars that might be on the drive: Golf, Clio, Qashqai, but the C30? It requires all my effort to move it just a little, but why??

I previously had a 4WD Audi that was really tough to move but figured that was down to the two diffs/4WD, but no such stuff on the Volvo. I have no symptoms of a sticky caliper but with new front calipers to go on imminently I'll get the rears checked out, but just wondered if anyone had any ideas?
Low tyre pressures , try the eco setting and you will realise how much extra power is needed to move the car with low tyre pressures! a C30 should be easy to push on a flat floor . it's worth jacking it up and making sure the wheels spin freely too .
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Golf and Clio is probably less weight than C30 with T5, no? Also seeing size of your wheels I suspect wider tyres has something to do with it?
I am able to push my v50 a bit by myself, if needed, dont really think its that much harder than similar car, but in general those weight a bit.
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Golf and Clio is probably less weight than C30 with T5, no? Also seeing size of your wheels I suspect wider tyres has something to do with it?
I am able to push my v50 a bit by myself, if needed, dont really think its that much harder than similar car, but in general those weight a bit.
Actually weight has little to do with rolling resistance , harder to get it moving initially yes but not to keep it going . A new XC90 is also easy to push with one hand ...
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Low tyre pressures , try the eco setting and you will realise how much extra power is needed to move the car with low tyre pressures! a C30 should be easy to push on a flat floor . it's worth jacking it up and making sure the wheels spin freely too .
Good point. I'm on 19s which at 8.5" wide will be a factor, and I am wondering what pressure to use in them, currently trying 37.5spi

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Golf and Clio is probably less weight than C30 with T5, no? Also seeing size of your wheels I suspect wider tyres has something to do with it?
I am able to push my v50 a bit by myself, if needed, dont really think its that much harder than similar car, but in general those weight a bit.
Heavier than Clio for sure, mk3 5 door Golf probably similar weight but Golf is dead easy to push, so I'm now thinking tyre width and pressures...

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Hahaha yes it's a good workout, try going for a day at santapod for the1/4 mile strip. 1/4 mile drag then a 1/4 mile push !!!!
Sounds like both you and the car are getting a good workout!

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Actually weight has little to do with rolling resistance , harder to get it moving initially yes but not to keep it going . A new XC90 is also easy to push with one hand ...
Yes. Had dad up this weekend and pushed his Qashqai (managed to squeeze 3 cars on to the drive with just inches spare) and that's real easy to push too.

So I'm thinking tyre width/pressure. The tyres on mine are 225/35/19 but recently I've been thinking they look like they need more air in them (just upped them to 37.5psi/2.6 bar). Anyone got any thoughts on that pressure in the fronts on 19s?

Pic attached here but angles can be deceptive to be honest...

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Good point. I'm on 19s which at 8.5" wide will be a factor, and I am wondering what pressure to use in them, currently trying 37.5spi



Heavier than Clio for sure, mk3 5 door Golf probably similar weight but Golf is dead easy to push, so I'm now thinking tyre width and pressures...



Sounds like both you and the car are getting a good workout!



Yes. Had dad up this weekend and pushed his Qashqai (managed to squeeze 3 cars on to the drive with just inches spare) and that's real easy to push too.

So I'm thinking tyre width/pressure. The tyres on mine are 225/35/19 but recently I've been thinking they look like they need more air in them (just upped them to 37.5psi/2.6 bar). Anyone got any thoughts on that pressure in the fronts on 19s?

Pic attached here but angles can be deceptive to be honest...

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ECO 38 psi works wonders for the tyres , steering precision and tyre life and fuel consumption as long as you are happy with the ride . 40 psi is the next stage to test but you are on diminishing returns by then but this does give the ultimate protection for valuable alloy wheels going into pot holes .
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"Old" wisdom said not to over inflate tyres as they will wear more in the middle.

My Corsa has an "ECO" pressure quoted, does this just mean that it is still safe up to that pressure, but with the obvious harder ride?
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