Volvo 940 safety?

[volvoz2000]

I feel the need to add my 2 penneth worth for good measure! The Swedes have always been amongst the best engineers on the planet, and with both Saab and Volvo they claim a large number of the most significant safety improvements that are standard issue today and we take totally for granted. Sadly GM raped Saab for all it was worth and discarded its hollowed out shell once they had taken what they were after. Volvo seems to be surviving well under its last 2 owners, and still doing great work in the safety department. As a general rule the best built and most reliable cars to date came in the early 90s form the Swedes and the Germans as they seemed to be competing to achieve the best, whereas now it is all about who can make it the cheapest.

I would rather be driving a saab 9000 or a Volvo 940 in a large number of crash scenarios as these cars were tested in the real world rather than preset NCAP or simulated tests that very rarely get replicated

[Palmer]

Originally Posted by terrywilde07

yes... they had the 2.0ltr turbo with 187bhp as standard the turbo was the HPT Mitsubishi unit (not the LPT Garret) and it was the same turbo they put on the Evo 3... the potential for tuning these was better than people figured... 'lots' of head work, mapping, fuelling, turbo, and a 63mm straight through tube for an exhaust, (no Cat or boxes) got it up to 371@ the wheels, the standard M49 4 speed with O/D couldn't cope so a 740 5 speed had to be used, I did some daft things with Volvos a few years ago... but that is a whole new thread...

you must have seen the 740 2.3 turbo on youtube putting out 530 horses...

→ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw4SU-Wnp_o

the 2ltrs had 150 standard, the 2.3 HPTS were 165, and the sport was 190(ish)

Just FYI the garret has no significance to HPT / LPT, it was the boost setting, LPT 4 psi HPT 8 psi - that's with the 13c, never seen a garrett on a 940 even though I know they exist.

Did you use a bigger turbo? Cos the standard one is tiny anything over 12psi it becomes a hairdryer

[Clan]

Originally Posted by volvoz2000

I feel the need to add my 2 penneth worth for good measure! The Swedes have always been amongst the best engineers on the planet, and with both Saab and Volvo they claim a large number of the most significant safety improvements that are standard issue today and we take totally for granted. Sadly GM raped Saab for all it was worth and discarded its hollowed out shell once they had taken what they were after. Volvo seems to be surviving well under its last 2 owners, and still doing great work in the safety department. As a general rule the best built and most reliable cars to date came in the early 90s form the Swedes and the Germans as they seemed to be competing to achieve the best, whereas now it is all about who can make it the cheapest.

I would rather be driving a saab 9000 or a Volvo 940 in a large number of crash scenarios as these cars were tested in the real world rather than preset NCAP or simulated tests that very rarely get replicated

Just as ford did with volvo , all we are left with now are a LOT of ford problems to sort out ... whilst ford claim glory for city safety and other volvo systems .

[stephend]

Originally Posted by Clan

Just as ford did with volvo , all we are left with now are a LOT of ford problems to sort out ... whilst ford claim glory for city safety and other volvo systems .

I've recently ended up visiting both Ford and Volvo showrooms - and it was hard to tell the difference...

Mind you, one difference was that I was in the Ford showroom waiting at the service desk for a friend whose new Ford had lost most of its gears , whereas I was in the Volvo showroom picking up new instrument panel bulbs for my 24-year-old 740 from the parts desk . Gears, bulbs - now which would you rather be replacing...?

[popuptoaster]

Originally Posted by Palmer

the 2ltrs had 150 standard, the 2.3 HPTS were 165, and the sport was 190(ish)

Just FYI the garret has no significance to HPT / LPT, it was the boost setting, LPT 4 psi HPT 8 psi - that's with the 13c, never seen a garrett on a 940 even though I know they exist.

Did you use a bigger turbo? Cos the standard one is tiny anything over 12psi it becomes a hairdryer

Mines a 2.3 LPT, i have fitted a boost gauge and MBC and wound it up to 12psi and it goes all right now although I've never had it on a rolling road. I plan on getting the V cam, a bigger turbo and getting her remapped to suit. I want to get rid of the dual mass flywheel first though.

At some stage i do plan on building a 16v turbo, but i will probably do that on a lower mileage engine and swop them over.

Far as i knew the Wentworth was just a trim level designed to cope with harsh conditions so they had less electrical gadgets but often came with a LSD?

[davebslater(uk)]

Originally Posted by terrywilde07

yes... they had the 2.0ltr turbo with 187bhp as standard the turbo was the HPT Mitsubishi unit (not the LPT Garret) and it was the same turbo they put on the Evo 3... the potential for tuning these was better than people figured... 'lots' of head work, mapping, fuelling, turbo, and a 63mm straight through tube for an exhaust, (no Cat or boxes) got it up to 371@ the wheels, the standard M49 4 speed with O/D couldn't cope so a 740 5 speed had to be used, I did some daft things with Volvos a few years ago... but that is a whole new thread...

you must have seen the 740 2.3 turbo on youtube putting out 530 horses...

→ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw4SU-Wnp_o

hmmm , perhaps you should talk about it then.....

[rippedoffagain]

Originally Posted by terrywilde07

y
you must have seen the 740 2.3 turbo on youtube putting out 530 horses...

→ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw4SU-Wnp_o

Has he not learned how to control a car? How's he allowed onto public roads (last couple of minutes of the video) when clearly he's not skilled enough to tell the difference between the controlled environment of a track, with safety marshalls and cordons to make sure people stay out the way, and where emergency crews are already on hand just in case, and the road where ordinary people might be driving along with kids in the car fully expecting to not suddenly have some bell end appear sideways on, out of control in a great cloud of blue smoke right in front of them.

[popuptoaster]

Originally Posted by rippedoffagain

Has he not learned how to control a car? How's he allowed onto public roads (last couple of minutes of the video) when clearly he's not skilled enough to tell the difference between the controlled environment of a track, with safety marshalls and cordons to make sure people stay out the way, and where emergency crews are already on hand just in case, and the road where ordinary people might be driving along with kids in the car fully expecting to not suddenly have some bell end appear sideways on, out of control in a great cloud of blue smoke right in front of them.

Yeah being on a deserted industrial estate at what looks like really early o'clock with your mates spread around making videos and keeping an eye out for the cops must be really dangerous for the hoards of nuns snd kittens that are wandering around........

[rippedoffagain]

Originally Posted by popuptoaster

Yeah being on a deserted industrial estate at what looks like really early o'clock with your mates spread around making videos and keeping an eye out for the cops must be really dangerous for the hoards of nuns snd kittens that are wandering around........

I suggest you look again at the 'deserted industrial estate' as it appears from about 5:50 in the video. That deserted industrial estate with its own dual carriageway and major junction, and other traffic.

[baggy798]

I thought an Evo 3 came with a 16G or 16T?

The driver in that video wasn't out of control at any moment, he has some serious skill to drift or powerslide a car at that speed. And it was really quiet so that's ok.