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Old Mar 1st, 2015, 22:21   #51
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Actually, you will also need the ECU. And this will only work, if the V40 is exactly the same engine as the S40. Otherwise, it will not work. I wrote this post a few years ago and I was actually wrong not mentioning that the ECU is also needed.
ah, ok... Thats a shame the V40 is a 1.8 and the S40 a 1.6.
Dang was hoping to save a few bucks.
Well at least the theory works, I thought you'd turn round and say it wasn't even possible at all because of some complex reason. lol.

On another note... I contacted Volvo a few weeks ago to see about getting a new key + fob, and asked about getting mine replaced with an all in one flip key.
I also asked about perhaps buying a fob on eBay (having already looked and found an identical fob using the part number on the chip) and getting it programmed.
To which he replied saying that the all in one flip key isn't possible, and that me buying a fob was a bad idea cause I'd probably buy the wrong one.
I know that Volvo moved away from user programmable fobs in '98-'99 but it seems an easy enough part to find... and seeing as the new one is over £100 (programming not included) I thought it'd be worth a punt.

Do you guys know if it would be possible to get a all-in-one made for my car? and how difficult it'd be to find a fob that is suitable?
or have any other info you think i should know and can help me with?

Its a '99 S40 1.6 btw.

Regardless, thanks for the help guy's, its much appreciated!
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Old Mar 1st, 2015, 22:43   #52
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ah, ok... Thats a shame the V40 is a 1.8 and the S40 a 1.6.
Dang was hoping to save a few bucks.
Well at least the theory works, I thought you'd turn round and say it wasn't even possible at all because of some complex reason. lol.

On another note... I contacted Volvo a few weeks ago to see about getting a new key + fob, and asked about getting mine replaced with an all in one flip key.
I also asked about perhaps buying a fob on eBay (having already looked and found an identical fob using the part number on the chip) and getting it programmed.
To which he replied saying that the all in one flip key isn't possible, and that me buying a fob was a bad idea cause I'd probably buy the wrong one.
I know that Volvo moved away from user programmable fobs in '98-'99 but it seems an easy enough part to find... and seeing as the new one is over £100 (programming not included) I thought it'd be worth a punt.

Do you guys know if it would be possible to get a all-in-one made for my car? and how difficult it'd be to find a fob that is suitable?
or have any other info you think i should know and can help me with?

Its a '99 S40 1.6 btw.

Regardless, thanks for the help guy's, its much appreciated!
Keys and fobs are programmed to individual cars and Volvo will not re-programme them. There are only two ways to replace the key. 1. remove a complete system from a donor car or 2. purchase new from Volvo.

I have recently had a new fob and key programmed for my 2001 V40 all in cost from dealer £260. They are separate btw not a flip key.
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A flip key is possible, you just have to dig the chip out of you old key and pop it into the new one.
Here's an example
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I have recently had a new fob and key programmed for my 2001 V40 all in cost from dealer £260. They are separate btw not a flip key.
yeah, my closest dealer quoted just over £300. That's why I was looking to avoid it. Ah well I'll just have to grin and bear it I suppose.

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Old Apr 15th, 2015, 17:50   #55
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hello there just wondering if you can help me
ive got a 2002 v40 1.8i (volvo engine )
im on holiday in france and lost my keys . Volvo wants quite a bit of money for a new one .
so ive found a 2000 v40 t4 in a breakers yard ..

Am i correct in thinking if i changed the igntion barrel and immo unit for t4 one it should work ??
if not can volvo program a usd immo unit into a ecu ?
kind regards danny
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Old Apr 15th, 2015, 17:57   #56
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hello there just wondering if you can help me
ive got a 2002 v40 1.8i (volvo engine )
im on holiday in france and lost my keys . Volvo wants quite a bit of money for a new one .
so ive found a 2000 v40 t4 in a breakers yard ..

Am i correct in thinking if i changed the igntion barrel and immo unit for t4 one it should work ??
if not can volvo program a usd immo unit into a ecu ?
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Damn, that is bad luck. Unfortunately, you will also need the ECU (but in your case, the T4 one will not do)

The combination of ECU, immobiliser and key, is what will make it work. However, it will have to be from the same engined car, ie, a 1.8.

With regards the the used immobilizer, apparently Volvo can only program a new one only. That is what I was told, but not 100% if it is the case indeed.
By the way, you mentioned that the car is the 1.8i with the volvo engine. However, the 1.8i is the Mitsubishi engine. The 1.8 (without the (i) is the Volvo engine).
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yeah, my closest dealer quoted just over £300. That's why I was looking to avoid it. Ah well I'll just have to grin and bear it I suppose.

Cheers for the help
As we don't have a Volvo dealer here in the Isle of Man, Mylchreests (who used to be the dealer) have quoted me £380 for a key and remote fob which they can only program on a Wednesday as that is the only day they pay for the licence from Volvo.

Looks like I will be using this guide to remove said items and replace the entire system!!
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Hi Gatos, I'm new to this forum as a member but have had much help over the last couple of Volvo owning years (S70, V40 2.0T & T4). My current problem is that the T4's engine is cooked (B4204T5) and the only T4 engine I can easily get hold of in Thailand (imported from Japan by my garage) is a B4194T2: a stronger unit I believe, but reading your guides I see that I may have problems with the electronics.
I presume I have to get the ECU to match the engine, but will I then also need the immobiliser and key fob?
Otherwise I could get a B4204T5 sent to my parents' house in the UK then shipped to Thailand but that would take months and be an admin nightmare.
Regards, and thanks for all the great info.
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Hi Gatos, I'm new to this forum as a member but have had much help over the last couple of Volvo owning years (S70, V40 2.0T & T4). My current problem is that the T4's engine is cooked (B4204T5) and the only T4 engine I can easily get hold of in Thailand (imported from Japan by my garage) is a B4194T2: a stronger unit I believe, but reading your guides I see that I may have problems with the electronics.
I presume I have to get the ECU to match the engine, but will I then also need the immobiliser and key fob?
Otherwise I could get a B4204T5 sent to my parents' house in the UK then shipped to Thailand but that would take months and be an admin nightmare.
Regards, and thanks for all the great info.

If you have the ECU, immobilzer, and key key combination, then no programming of the ECU will be required. However, if there are people who can program the ECU in Thailand, then you will have no need for the rest of the bits. However, a couple of warnings. Volvo is not the easiest to program their stuff and not many people do it, so you will need to make sure that it can be done. Also, the B4194T2 was fitted on the later Phase 1 cars, whereas the B4204T5 was fitted on Phase 2 cars. So I am not 100% sure if the wiring etc is exactly the same. I have never tried it, so I don't know.

If I remember correctly, TommyT4 fitted a B4194T2 engine on his Phase 2 car, so it might worth PMing him and see what he says.

Good luck with your project.
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Thanks for the help, Gatos. Well the garage has come back to me after I pointed out there may be problems, and they've checked with the Volvo dealer who've told them it's not possible to stick a B4194T2 in my series 2. So they're not going to attempt it: maybe I shouldn't have said anything. I'll keep looking for info but may have to get & import the engine I found in the UK. The car's still worth 6,000 pounds in Thailand!

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