Castrol Edge Professional A5/B5 Vs Castrol Edge A5/B5

[mr.pip]

Hi all, I've just changed my '55 V70 D5 sport, got fed up with the Engine Service Required Msg, which was found to be a sticky Turbo!!, for a '12 V70 D3/4 (stop/start), a strange bedfellow, but a wonderful Car.
How-ever my question is :- Is there any tremendous difference between Castrol Edge Professional 0W-30 A5/B5 and Castrol Edge
0W-30 A5/B5 engine oil, or is it that the dealers want to take over everything by saying I have to buy this oil from them.

[Ninja59]

From what one member told me on here the only difference is for identification purposes - UV dye of some description and branding.

Got to Opie Oils use the discount code on here and save some money.

[CJL]

The spec is identical. Opie have a good deal on the Castrol A5/B5 at the moment and it even says for Volvo on the side.

The oil store in Germany used to sell Edge Professional at a reasonable price, but I've just googled it and now it's called SLX Longtec which is the old name

[mr.pip]

Thanks for that info,
I'll have a search for that discount code and will take a close look at 'Opie Oils'.

[v50inred]

Edge Professional is simply a brand name for oils sold to dealerships, there is also Magnatec Professional.

Have thought about going up to the higher specced 0w30 A5/B5 but can't see the point in my high miles 2.0d which has spent that last 50k on 5w30 without incident.

I also change oil to often to get a decent return on the investment.

If I had a '12 like you I would certainly be using 0w30

If you can buy Edge 0w30 A5/B5 cheaper than the dealer can supply it then buy it and supply it to the dealer.

Though the saving is likely to make it less than worthwhile as places like Opieoils are not the bargain they initially seem unless you can get free delivery.

And the saps of Edge 0w30 is a little higher than I would like with a Dpf to protect as according to the data sheet on Opie the saps is 1.12.

The saps of the Mobil Super 3000 X1 FE 5w30 I am using is less at 0.8.

The lower the saps the better it is for the Dpf, you would really like it 0.8 and below.

£26 for 5 litres versus £40 for 4 litres is also significant for me.

Ask your dealer for the data sheet for the oil he supplies just incase there is a difference between Edge Professional and Edge.

As it was on Bobistheoilguy that I read they are identical just one being repackaged for specific trade use (Ford and Volvo dealers for example)

[Ninja59]

Originally Posted by v50inred

Edge Professional is simply a brand name for oils sold to dealerships, there is also Magnatec Professional.

Have thought about going up to the higher specced 0w30 A5/B5 but can't see the point in my high miles 2.0d which has spent that last 50k on 5w30 without incident.

I also change oil to often to get a decent return on the investment.

If I had a '12 like you I would certainly be using 0w30

If you can buy Edge 0w30 A5/B5 cheaper than the dealer can supply it then buy it and supply it to the dealer.

Though the saving is likely to make it less than worthwhile as places like Opieoils are not the bargain they initially seem unless you can get free delivery.

And the saps of Edge 0w30 is a little higher than I would like with a Dpf to protect as according to the data sheet on Opie the saps is 1.12.

The saps of the Mobil Super 3000 X1 FE 5w30 I am using is less at 0.8.

The lower the saps the better it is for the Dpf, you would really like it 0.8 and below.

£26 for 5 litres versus £40 for 4 litres is also significant for me.

Ask your dealer for the data sheet for the oil he supplies just incase there is a difference between Edge Professional and Edge.

As it was on Bobistheoilguy that I read they are identical just one being repackaged for specific trade use (Ford and Volvo dealers for example)

5 cylinder diesels can only use 0w-30 A5/B5, there are very few that meet that requirement.

Additionally, there are very few places if you went down the castrol edge route that do 0w-30 A5/B5 with discount you can cover next day delivery in many cases.

[v50inred]

The 0w30 Edge is indeed the Castrol recommendation for the D3 stop start which I think is the 2.0 five cylinder?

But Mobil Super 3000 5w30 is the Mobil recommendation for the same vehicle.

[Ninja59]

Put simply it does not meet Volvo specification though which is 0W-30 A5/B5 for any 5 cylinder whether that be Castrol or any make, risking putting an oil that does not meet Volvo specifications could risk any warranty.



just to lighten the mood I also found this amusing typo in the MY13 V70 manual: -

[skyship007]

Originally Posted by mr.pip

Hi all, I've just changed my '55 V70 D5 sport, got fed up with the Engine Service Required Msg, which was found to be a sticky Turbo!!, for a '12 V70 D3/4 (stop/start), a strange bedfellow, but a wonderful Car.
How-ever my question is :- Is there any tremendous difference between Castrol Edge Professional 0W-30 A5/B5 and Castrol Edge
0W-30 A5/B5 engine oil, or is it that the dealers want to take over everything by saying I have to buy this oil from them.

Look up both PDS (Product data sheets) on the Castrol.co.uk site to see if the viscosities are the same. If they are, then the base stocks used will be identical, BUT the Pro version probably has a higher level of friction reducing Moly (Mo).

I don't like Acea B5 oils, as they have even less Zinc based anti wear additive than the B4 did. That's just because of some fear of the DPF failing from Zinc compounds causing too much ash. There is no cheap alternative to the use of Zinc, as too much Moly causes long term corrosion.
A5/B5 is equivalent to A1/B1, which was the very first Acea class of oil. Even Castrol admit that on their web site, so if you don't have to use it, don't. It will cause the block to wear out and get dirty faster than an A4/B4 oil, although the fuel contamination from a DPF does help reduce the sludge factor whilst frying the turbo bearings.

Half a can of Liqui Moly Ceratec in the cheaper oil would do a better job than paying the extra for the Pro version in my opinion.
Shell Ultra 0w30 is also made in an A5/B5 form and is a better oil than normal edge, it might well be cheaper on Fleabay.

Both Mobil and Casteroil are too expensive cos they spend big bucks on advertising and providing free oil to car manufacturers for factory fills. If you do use Mobil 0w30 or 40, use their full synthetic (It's an HC synthetic but nearly as good as the German Synthoil or Ultra GTL base) M1, not their cheaper dinosaur oils. If you can't afford good oil, try Halfrauds, as their oils will be just as good as the cheaper Castrol or Mobil oils.

There is no real need for an 0wX in the EU, a 5wX is good for minus 25c and the winter diesel gells below that temp!