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Old Mar 22nd, 2019, 13:49   #151
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Yup.. Watch me handing my life out to some unknown, possibly underpaid, coder, who works on (pretty much certain) Chinese processors with more backdoors than there is crooks in any given government..

"Yes, officer, I think my car was stolen. No, I haven't seen the thief, the car simply got up and drove away, all by itself. I think it was hackers job".

Programming? It is simply impossible to predict everything. A program can do only what it was programmed to do. If programmer did not predict some scenario, computer simply won't know what to do.

Human driver can think up the solution. Can adjust, innovate, take calculated risks..

And there's just too many that seem to take it as the goal of their lives to prove that humans cannot be trusted with the steering wheel...
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Old Mar 22nd, 2019, 17:22   #152
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Whilst I don't object in principle to the idea of a speed limiter as my car already has one, in that it is rev limited and has fixed gear ratios, and I spend my working life in a truck limited to 56; the issue of autonomous cars and ones that override the driver is a different thing especially in the context of the current Boeing problem.
The risk management however is complicated and could cut both ways, what was the death toll in both Boeing crashes? put that against over 1000 deaths on the roads of Britain every year.
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Old Mar 22nd, 2019, 19:18   #153
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But to put it in some perspective, air crashes/deaths have very limited number of persons responsible for that crash. It may be pilot, it may be traffic controller, it may be programmist who messed up.
Point is- its an environment where a single person can be responsible for deaths of hundreds.
And these hundreds have absolutely nothing to say in subject of how is that plane piloted, routed etc.

In car transport on the other hand..

I will risk saying that half the people responsible for the lethal section of accidents dies in the very accident , the other half has to live with a word "killer" mentally stamped on their foreheads.

Show me scenario where plane passengers are responsible for crash.

And I'll take much easier task of providing some.. hundred examples where pedestrian died solely because he/she wasn't looking where he/she is going.
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*Grumble, grumble* bloody Bentley boys didn't have to put up with this crap. *Mumble*
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*Grumble, grumble* bloody Bentley boys didn't have to put up with this crap. *Mumble*
Me thinks..

You forgot to add *Groan*
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...most teens want to rag a car to death because they want to be in control (after years of being told what they can and can't do). Older folk want to be in control because they don't trust computers 100% yet...
Well reasoned. I am not sure that there is a middle ground between teen and older. I am heading fast to the latter but I still feel like a 20 something and when I wish to 'drive like I stole it'.

This whole Big Brother, 1984, Brave New World, is not going to end well for the majority.
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Things approved by the European Parliament today:

* Copyright Directive
This will see search engines taxed for links, and content platforms rather than users being liable for copyright violations. Memes are protected though, so that's fine.

* Revision to General Safety Regulation
This will make the following tech mandatory fit in all cars in the EU by 2022:
Automatic emergency braking
Lane departure warning
Intelligent speed assistance (GPS-linked speed limiter)
Alcohol interlock
Driver drowsiness, attention and distraction detection and warning
Emergency stop signal
Reversing cameras/detectors
Accident data recorder (black box)
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That's me not buying a new car after 2022 then
I need to start taking mega care of my 2004 v70 awd R..
She's got to last me out. ..
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Things approved by the European Parliament today:

* Copyright Directive
This will see search engines taxed for links, and content platforms rather than users being liable for copyright violations. Memes are protected though, so that's fine.

* Revision to General Safety Regulation
This will make the following tech mandatory fit in all cars in the EU by 2022:
Automatic emergency braking
Lane departure warning
Intelligent speed assistance (GPS-linked speed limiter)
Alcohol interlock
Driver drowsiness, attention and distraction detection and warning
Emergency stop signal
Reversing cameras/detectors
Accident data recorder (black box)
Don’t worry.... After Breggzit it won’t apply to the UK..... Or will it??

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Yes, yes it will.
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