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May 13th, 2018, 17:52 | #11 |
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If it's a genuine OEM then it should have the restrictor already fitted in the inlet tube - you can't miss it - it is bright and shiny it isn't actually brass but a plated steel look alike and looks like a brass ring or washer within the plastic inlet - if memory serves it's about 1.5inches long i.e around 3 to 4cm in length - it literally narrows the inlet to approx 10 % of the orifice diameter and should be visible in the plastic inlet tube of the reservoir if you take off the upper rubber tube inlet, ie the high pressure return from the steering rack - it maintains the fluid pressure throughout the system prior to the low pressure return/dump to the reservoir for re-circulation via the pump to be re-pressurised to drive the powered rack.
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There's two types of reservoirs. The newer model (without the brass fitting) has the two hoses connecting at the bottom of the reservoir.
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May 17th, 2018, 20:12 | #13 |
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Well fellas, curiosity got the best of me so I visited my local wreckyard last night and installed a replacement p/s pump. Holy crap, $50CAD later, what a difference! I have gone from having to use 3/4 of my arm strength to turn at low speeds to being able to turn with one finger. Aside from fixing the fluctuating idle issue a few months back this may very well be the most rewarding car job I have ever done. Feels like I'm driving and brand new car!
So here is what I think happened: the previous owner knowingly kept driving the car even though the reservoir was leaking to the point where not much fluid was left to lubricate the pump. Then, I'm pretty sure he just kept driving...many miles. Eventually lack of lubrication just did it in. When I bought the vehicle, the rack as rattling and moaning like it too was done in. With new fluid in, it came right back to life. Go figure. Side note, 2004 and below use a power steering pump with a threaded high pressure hose fitting...be cautious when putting it back together as it's pretty soft metal easy to put on crooked.
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Oct 22nd, 2018, 23:38 | #14 |
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In the end the heavy steering returned and I was stuck replacing the rack. Here’s a guide for anyone contemplating doing same.
https://youtu.be/NgVRA-DM6fY
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Oct 23rd, 2018, 12:07 | #15 |
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Great video, thanks!
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Oct 24th, 2018, 12:36 | #16 |
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Thanks for the video.
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Oct 24th, 2018, 19:07 | #17 |
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How would you describe the feeling now? I once got mine to work like new and the feeling was a shock to me: I would describe it as a "Bentley" steering: butter smooth and easy with a stuning heavy yet light weight to it. Still think the main issue with the steering on these cars is the spool valve inside the steering rack gets clogged with debris.
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My only disappointment has to do with the minor (yet annoying) glitch relating to a scenario of 1) high speed driving, 2) slowing down and then 3) immediately needing to turning. In such cases the stiff steering is slow to switch to "assisted" mode for whatever reason. If you pause for a few seconds (not something you can always do!) the smooth steering returns and all is good. If you are driving through residential streets you don't notice it. It's really only in cases where you are getting off the highway or a higher speed regional road and then you need to slow down fast and then turn. I'm wondering if it might be the solenoid that is sticking a bit but honestly I can't be bothered to look into it further right now. I'm done for the fall! Thoughts? Is the spool valve the same valve that activates the "power assist" mode? If so, I'm thinking you are right. My old rack didn't leak. It's possible I could have replaced the solenoid only but honestly the two bolts on the solenoid were so rusted out that even with the rack out of the car, I managed to strip one of the two retaining screws when I took it off just out of curiosity to inspect it.
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I'm not sure how the speed sensitive assist does affect the spool valve. Only thing I can say is that on mine which has only the mechanical rack and the steering feels perfectly numb and on the heavy side. And then one day all of a sudden the steering got like what I describe here above to be a 'Bentley' feeling. No idea what happened, but it lasted for 2 days then all of a sudden the steering become numb and heavier again. This makes me think it cannot be the pump or other steering/suspension components (also the coupler works fine), so the only other item is the spool valve inside the rack - or the speed sensitive sensor on cars equipped with.
By the way, I watched a bit your video, I get what you meant by 'done for the fall', doing a rack on this weather brings me memories of a similar job & conditions on a Honda years ago.
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