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V50 stop start advice needed

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Old Feb 24th, 2016, 20:06   #1
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Default V50 stop start advice needed

Hi everyone I'm looking for some advice on troubleshooting the stop start system on my lovely v50.
Can anyone give me some information on what to check ??
I've already replaced the battery with the correct type as the old one started the car fine but the cold cranking amps were low.
Disconnected the positive battery terminal to reset the system.
I'm hoping someone can point me in right direction as to testing relays etc.
This is my first car with the stop start system and I'm keen to get it working
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Old Feb 25th, 2016, 15:57   #2
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There any many reasons why the stop start will not work during cold weather if the temperature is too low assuming you are in the UK. 1.6D Drive, 2010 model.

Mine did not work at all on the way to work this morning because the outside temperature was -1 C.
If the engine is cold and the weather cold then it will not work either.
Have you checked the auxiliary battery voltage as well?

Is the air-con on? the Stop/Start should not work if it is.

I think it will not work if the battery is too hot, not an issue in the UK I think.

Is the new battery fully charged? Is it a Volvo battery or an alternative one?

The Stop/Start will not work if the car is trying to regenerate the DPF.

On the way home this evening, outside temperature 3C, engine cold, StopStart not working. 5 miles further on, engine nearly warm StopStart working.

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Old Feb 25th, 2016, 21:17   #3
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Mine is a 2012. Stop/start seems to work in strange ways

- Doesn't work below 0C. That seems to make sense
- above 0C, mine will shut off the engine within half a mile of a cold start. This really doesn't seem good for the engine
- will work when the aircon is on but if it's a really hot day and the aircon is having to work hard, it may start the engine again before you move off
- occasionally just doesn't work so can only assume there a DPF regen on the go
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Old Mar 2nd, 2016, 18:04   #4
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Default V50 DrivE 1.6D 2012 Volvo Selekt Won't Stop/Start

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Mine is a 2012. Stop/start seems to work in strange ways

- Doesn't work below 0C. That seems to make sense
- above 0C, mine will shut off the engine within half a mile of a cold start. This really doesn't seem good for the engine
- will work when the aircon is on but if it's a really hot day and the aircon is having to work hard, it may start the engine again before you move off
- occasionally just doesn't work so can only assume there a DPF regen on the go
Hi

I have read the items regarding Stop/ Start won't work and I wonder whether anyone has any advice for how to deal with the following issue.

I read about the various conditions under which the Stop/Start is inhibited, so
Too cold, Too hot, battery condition etc etc.

My Volvo Selekt dealership has had my V50 car for two weeks now in an attempt to get the Stop/Start working. It is the second time the car has gone back for this problem - the first time (2 days) they charged the battery and said they adjusted the system and test drove it and it worked OK. I picked it up the next day and it did not work at all on my 27 mile journey home and has not worked since (or ever in my ownership).

On its latest visit to the dealership (2 weeks and counting now) their best advice is that the car has had (software?) upgrades and now needs at least eight long journeys with at least 4 hours rest between each one to condition the system to work again.

Sorry, but this sound like utter rubbish to me. I was offered the choice of doing this myself or leaving the car with them. I said they should fix it, in the meantime I have their courtesy car...

Bewildered

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Old Mar 4th, 2016, 19:05   #5
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Dave
Sounds like a battery problem to me. Has the battery been replaced or is it the original one?
My Stop / Start would not work when I bought my used S40 1.6D. I took the plunge and fitted a new, correctly sized, battery and the all worked as expected. I tried ,any things before replacing the battery, nothing resolved the failure, the original battery was 4 years old. Be careful if you charge the battery in the car, connect +'ve to battery terminal and -'ve to the car body.

There are two batteries on the car, main under the bonnet and a small auxiliary battery behind the front bumper on the UK passenger side.

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Dave
Sounds like a battery problem to me. Has the battery been replaced or is it the original one?
My Stop / Start would not work when I bought my used S40 1.6D. I took the plunge and fitted a new, correctly sized, battery and the all worked as expected. I tried ,any things before replacing the battery, nothing resolved the failure, the original battery was 4 years old. Be careful if you charge the battery in the car, connect +'ve to battery terminal and -'ve to the car body.

There are two batteries on the car, main under the bonnet and a small auxiliary battery behind the front bumper on the UK passenger side.

Tom
Hi Tom

I too have problems with my volvo V50 1.6D 2010. Tried giving the main battery a really good charge but still no luck. I never knew there were 2 batteries, I have tried to look for the second Aux battery where you said but can't see it, space is too tight and very crowded.
Any advice and tips on how to get to it to check/charge/replace it. Is it a case of removing the complete full bumper.
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Old Mar 4th, 2016, 23:14   #7
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The main battery will need charging for a long time , 24 hours or twice that if you have a small charger , then disconnect it for 5 mins and try it after re connecting .
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Old Mar 5th, 2016, 06:09   #8
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on ocassions ive had this and you need to reset the bms ,,via vida ,
cem/advanced/ stop start/bms reset ....good luck..

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Old Aug 18th, 2017, 14:05   #9
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Default How exactly do you charge the stop start battery

With my 2009 V50 D Drive I am finding with short journeys the Stop Start function/battery is failing. Last service cost me with a dealer overnight SS battery charge.
Does the SS battery get charged after a main battery charge. Example if main battery is fully charged, will it then trickle feed SS battery?
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How do you directly trickle charge the SS battery.
, noting is position behind bumpers etc.
I do note the Volvo caution of NOT connecting jump leads to the main battery neg terminal; connecting neg to V50 body instead. Whats that significance!
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Old Aug 18th, 2017, 14:13   #10
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With my 2009 V50 D Drive I am finding with short journeys the Stop Start function/battery is failing. Last service cost me with a dealer overnight SS battery charge.
Does the SS battery get charged after a main battery charge. Example if main battery is fully charged, will it then trickle feed SS battery?
Or
How do you directly trickle charge the SS battery.
, noting is position behind bumpers etc.
I do note the Volvo caution of NOT connecting jump leads to the main battery neg terminal; connecting neg to V50 body instead. Whats that significance!
The Main Battery is the Stop/Start battery which does all the work , It's a special AGM 760A type , It could be loosing capacity with age if original . Do you only do short journeys ? How long did it work for after you had the long charge ?
The Aux battery gets charged all the time the engine is running , Very very rare for one to go faulty .

Connect the Earth lead of a charger to chassis so that all the loads go through the battery monitor on the negative terminal , It stores all sorts of data regarding battery use and condition .
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