Right car?

vaynah · Jul 17th, 2014, 11:12

So after reading some posts about diesel vs petrol etc etc, I started wondering if I got the right car(engine wise).

It's a 2004 2.0D, great engine with plenty of torque.

My annual mileage however is no more than 6k, 90% is A roads daily commute.
The engine hasn't given me any problems yet in the 1+ year I've had it.

Would I be better off with a 1.8 petrol?

gswede · Jul 17th, 2014, 11:55

Other than the T5, the 2,0D would be my choice..

You`d be susprised of the level of disapointment the 1,8 petrol delivers

theRsole · Jul 17th, 2014, 12:34

if you've not had any problems then you've made the right choice, I can confirm that the 1.8 petrol isn't the best engine from a driving point of view! (well, if you ever need to overtake)

Ninja59 · Jul 17th, 2014, 12:50

Pointless on that mileage having diesel it will be costing you more in fuel and servicing.

2.0 Petrol rather than the 1.8 in the P1 cars. The 1.8 and 2.0 are Mazda MZR (in a majority Mazda designed)/Ford duratec engines with a few minor tweeks obviously. Also used in the MX5 but of course that weighs substantially less.

Welton · Jul 18th, 2014, 07:11

I mustard mitt 6K/yr is not really the best reason to get a Diesel, I do 8K/yr in my T5 and its been plain sailing for me.

Your diesel engine may not be reaching its optimum temperature to deliver good economy and this in turn can lead to a build up of deposits thanks to the EGR system. It would benefit from having the EGR blanked off (if that's possible on these engines without it throwing a fault?).

You may find that you're only getting low-30's MPG? something that petrol's can do with cheaper fuel and fewer potential problems.

You would also be wise to do 6-monthly oil changes and use the best quality diesel fuel you can find. You are most likely lucky that you don't have a DPF being an early car and this is a godsend.

As said though if it aint broke and all that......

TheFiend · Jul 18th, 2014, 09:28

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Originally Posted by theRsole

if you've not had any problems then you've made the right choice, I can confirm that the 1.8 petrol isn't the best engine from a driving point of view! (well, if you ever need to overtake)

I drive a 1.8 C30 R-Design and it certainly doesn't disappoint me.... and my previous car was a Porsche 944. And I'm getting 40+MPG out of it. My last full tank included a 280 motorway trip at 70+ and it still managed 39.6MPG

Ninja59 · Jul 18th, 2014, 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welton

I mustard mitt 6K/yr is not really the best reason to get a Diesel, I do 8K/yr in my T5 and its been plain sailing for me.

Your diesel engine may not be reaching its optimum temperature to deliver good economy and this in turn can lead to a build up of deposits thanks to the EGR system. It would benefit from having the EGR blanked off (if that's possible on these engines without it throwing a fault?).

You may find that you're only getting low-30's MPG? something that petrol's can do with cheaper fuel and fewer potential problems.

You would also be wise to do 6-monthly oil changes and use the best quality diesel fuel you can find. You are most likely lucky that you don't have a DPF being an early car and this is a godsend.

As said though if it aint broke and all that......

Actually bizarrely the earlier cars (06/07) in some instances had DPF's 2008/09 I have never seen one on...(based on the manual)

Ninja59 · Jul 18th, 2014, 12:31

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Originally Posted by TheFiend

I drive a 1.8 C30 R-Design and it certainly doesn't disappoint me.... and my previous car was a Porsche 944. And I'm getting 40+MPG out of it. My last full tank included a 280 motorway trip at 70+ and it still managed 39.6MPG

That is pretty impressive from the 1.8 my best with roughly the same engine in the MX5 if a little more steady is 53.5 MPG.

TheFiend · Jul 18th, 2014, 23:02

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Originally Posted by Ninja59

That is pretty impressive from the 1.8 my best with roughly the same engine in the MX5 if a little more steady is 53.5 MPG.

Previous fill up was 41.2MPG for my daily commute. I think the warm summer has contributed towards these figures.

Falmouthboy · Jul 19th, 2014, 07:17

Having had a 1.8, I found it to be a perfectly adequate engine for 'local running'. Another gear and so bit more power would have been nice for the 'open road', but it depends where your priorities lay.

As for the early 2.0d, as said, you don't have a DPF which would be the root of issues for your type of driving and it's true you don't maximise the benefits of owning a diesel. However, give it a decent run every few weeks and run it on premium fuel and you should bad fine.

Jul 17th, 2014, 11:12	#1
vaynah Junior Member Last Online: Aug 24th, 2017 12:49 Join Date: May 2013 Location: Manchester	Right car? So after reading some posts about diesel vs petrol etc etc, I started wondering if I got the right car(engine wise). It's a 2004 2.0D, great engine with plenty of torque. My annual mileage however is no more than 6k, 90% is A roads daily commute. The engine hasn't given me any problems yet in the 1+ year I've had it. Would I be better off with a 1.8 petrol? __________________ 2004 S40 2.0D in Gorgeous Silver

Jul 18th, 2014, 07:11	#5
Welton Premier Member Last Online: Sep 14th, 2021 17:03 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Market Harborough	I mustard mitt 6K/yr is not really the best reason to get a Diesel, I do 8K/yr in my T5 and its been plain sailing for me. Your diesel engine may not be reaching its optimum temperature to deliver good economy and this in turn can lead to a build up of deposits thanks to the EGR system. It would benefit from having the EGR blanked off (if that's possible on these engines without it throwing a fault?). You may find that you're only getting low-30's MPG? something that petrol's can do with cheaper fuel and fewer potential problems. You would also be wise to do 6-monthly oil changes and use the best quality diesel fuel you can find. You are most likely lucky that you don't have a DPF being an early car and this is a godsend. As said though if it aint broke and all that...... __________________ 2005 S40 T5 SE - Manual. Bilstein B4's. (For Sale) 2010 Citroen C4 1.6 HDi (bizarre Gearbox model). 2010 Renault Twingo (refreshingly simple) 2018 Infiniti Q30 1.6T Business Executive (what's this button do?)

Jul 17th, 2014, 11:55	#2
gswede Member Last Online: May 10th, 2016 14:53 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Rogaland	Other than the T5, the 2,0D would be my choice.. You`d be susprised of the level of disapointment the 1,8 petrol delivers

Jul 17th, 2014, 12:34	#3
theRsole Member Last Online: Mar 4th, 2019 14:24 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: west coast	if you've not had any problems then you've made the right choice, I can confirm that the 1.8 petrol isn't the best engine from a driving point of view! (well, if you ever need to overtake)

Jul 17th, 2014, 12:50	#4
Ninja59 Probably Akita's Toyboy.. Last Online: Dec 27th, 2023 22:24 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: A House.	Pointless on that mileage having diesel it will be costing you more in fuel and servicing. 2.0 Petrol rather than the 1.8 in the P1 cars. The 1.8 and 2.0 are Mazda MZR (in a majority Mazda designed)/Ford duratec engines with a few minor tweeks obviously. Also used in the MX5 but of course that weighs substantially less.

Jul 19th, 2014, 07:17	#10
Falmouthboy Member Last Online: Nov 15th, 2014 08:06 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Truro	Having had a 1.8, I found it to be a perfectly adequate engine for 'local running'. Another gear and so bit more power would have been nice for the 'open road', but it depends where your priorities lay. As for the early 2.0d, as said, you don't have a DPF which would be the root of issues for your type of driving and it's true you don't maximise the benefits of owning a diesel. However, give it a decent run every few weeks and run it on premium fuel and you should bad fine.

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