Volvo Community Forum. The Forums of the Volvo Owners Club

Forum Rules Volvo Owners Club About VOC Volvo Gallery Links Volvo History Volvo Press
Go Back   Volvo Owners Club Forum > "Technical Topics" > PV, 120 (Amazon), 1800 General
Register Members Cars Help Calendar Extra Stuff

Notices

PV, 120 (Amazon), 1800 General Forum for the Volvo PV, 120 and 1800 cars

Information
  • VOC Members: There is no login facility using your VOC membership number or the details from page 3 of the club magazine. You need to register in the normal way
  • AOL Customers: Make sure you check the 'Remember me' check box otherwise the AOL system may log you out during the session. This is a known issue with AOL.
  • AOL, Yahoo and Plus.net users. Forum owners such as us are finding that AOL, Yahoo and Plus.net are blocking a lot of email generated from forums. This may mean your registration activation and other emails will not get to you, or they may appear in your spam mailbox

Thread Informations

Washer pump 661324 photos wanted

Views : 805

Replies : 8

Users Viewing This Thread :  

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Sep 21st, 2022, 02:06   #1
Sunnysoutheast
Junior Member
 
Sunnysoutheast's Avatar
 

Last Online: Sep 4th, 2023 10:59
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Hailsham
Cool Washer pump 661324 photos wanted

BCDC9D2C-946D-484A-907A-FDDA4D300ED0.jpeg
Can anyone help me understand the electrical end of this beautiful (seized) pump? I’m really looking for a photo or two of the armature top end and it’s bush, cone, or bearing that fits on that riveted bent over-hanging arm (above the tapered end of the armature).
The white coloured arm looks too bent to me and the flat nylon insert looks wrong too.
I have straightened the arm and reassembled it and found all to be working now but there’s nothing hold the top of the armature? So a photo of the bent arm and spindle end might explain the design, then I can make a new part to fix it completely. I’ve got the seal and o’ring ordered so I’m in heading down the right track.
Any advice sought. Thanks in advance.
Sunnysoutheast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 21st, 2022, 18:04   #2
Bob 1967
Master Member
 

Last Online: Today 18:27
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Dublin
Default

https://vp-autoparts.com/en/artiklar...b18/index.html

Googling the part number will show some assembled units
__________________
Cowboy used to be a trade , now it means lack of one.

Last edited by Bob 1967; Sep 21st, 2022 at 18:08.
Bob 1967 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Bob 1967 For This Useful Post:
Old Sep 21st, 2022, 19:27   #3
Sunnysoutheast
Junior Member
 
Sunnysoutheast's Avatar
 

Last Online: Sep 4th, 2023 10:59
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Hailsham
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob 1967 View Post
https://vp-autoparts.com/en/artiklar...b18/index.html

Googling the part number will show some assembled units
Thanks.👍 I didn’t see that illustration before.
The shame is that I still can’t see or imagine what holds the far end (in that drg.) of the armature on the ‘bent over-arm’ in my photo.
Damn close but still in the dark.
🫤
Sunnysoutheast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 22nd, 2022, 13:20   #4
Sunnysoutheast
Junior Member
 
Sunnysoutheast's Avatar
 

Last Online: Sep 4th, 2023 10:59
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Hailsham
Default

These two photos explain the mysterious gap in between the (straightened white coloured) over-arm and the end of the armature. The plier is holding the nylon disc which was located under the (previously bent) over-arm crushing against the cone on the end of the armature.

So what is in the gap? What is holding the armature?

A photo (or two) of a working pump would be enough for me to understand the design and enable a serviceable washer pump.

image0.jpg

image1.jpg
Sunnysoutheast is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Sunnysoutheast For This Useful Post:
Old Sep 22nd, 2022, 14:22   #5
Salop Farmer
Member
 

Last Online: Yesterday 10:24
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Oswestry
Default

Really makes one appreciate this forum and all its knowledgable members, Great detail.
Salop Farmer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 22nd, 2022, 15:03   #6
Ron Kwas
Premier Member
 
Ron Kwas's Avatar
 

Last Online: Today 13:22
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Connecticut, USA
Default

SSE;

Compliments on detailed pix! I'm not certain if this answers your question, but that white nylon part is clearly a Thrust Bearing...it looks in very good condition with low wear. A clean, machined steel surface to nylon is a low friction interface, but when reassembling the motor, I'd still put a dab of synth-grease on the contact point to keep friction and wear at a minimum.

...and BTW...construction of that motor is quite similar to the 544 Wiper Motor shown here, if that helps (the nylon TW is not nearly as clearly visible as in your pic!):

Source: https://www.sw-em.com/544%20Wiper%20Info.htm

Cheers

Last edited by Ron Kwas; Sep 22nd, 2022 at 15:49.
Ron Kwas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 22nd, 2022, 16:03   #7
Sunnysoutheast
Junior Member
 
Sunnysoutheast's Avatar
 

Last Online: Sep 4th, 2023 10:59
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Hailsham
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Kwas View Post
SSE;

Compliments on detailed pix! I'm not certain if this answers your question, but that white nylon part is clearly a Thrust Bearing...it looks in very good condition with low wear. A clean, machined steel surface to nylon is a low friction interface, but when reassembling the motor, I'd still put a dab of synth-grease on the contact point to keep friction and wear at a minimum.

...and BTW...construction of that motor is quite similar to the 544 Wiper Motor shown here, if that helps (the nylon TW is not nearly as clearly visible as in your pic!):

Source: https://www.sw-em.com/544%20Wiper%20Info.htm

Cheers
If I'm reading your suggestion correctly I have all the parts. I just need to lower the nylon pad onto the top of the armature by bending the over-arm, and with a little grease it should be good to go.

Thanks.

PS
Photo snaps taken on my old iPhone.
Sunnysoutheast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 23rd, 2022, 16:14   #8
Ron Kwas
Premier Member
 
Ron Kwas's Avatar
 

Last Online: Today 13:22
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Connecticut, USA
Default

SSE;

I'd advise careful (necessary, and temporary only) bending to reassemble the Armature with that Thrust Bearing in place...!

Have you freed the "seized" rotating parts?

...yeah...that pic was taken with one of the early electronic cameras
...the one in my phone now has a hundred times that resolution...I'll have to renew that pic sometime...

Cheers
Ron Kwas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 23rd, 2022, 16:35   #9
Sunnysoutheast
Junior Member
 
Sunnysoutheast's Avatar
 

Last Online: Sep 4th, 2023 10:59
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Hailsham
Default

You’re right with your recommendation for care.

The seizure was a badly positioned metal ‘girdle’ and now everything is as free as a bird.

As for the phone cameras; it’s absolutely amazing how far they’ve gone since the first phone cameras which were pathetic. I had a very keen interest in 35mm photography from a young age, progressed to digital but now the image quality on my iPhone is more than satisfactory.

So have a play and re-image those parts.

Kind regards

Dave C
Sunnysoutheast is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
121, 131, amazon, p1800, washer pump


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 20:03.


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.