Brakes: 70: - Braided hoses

StatusRed · Jun 4th, 2019, 10:19

So I'm going to be replacing 3 out of the 4 calipers on my C70 due to seized bleed nipples, when checking the fronts I noticed on the passenger side the rubber brake hose is pretty worn and is fraying so I'm thinking I may as well upgrade to front braided hoses...

On HEL and Goodridge there's 15" and 16" wheel hoses listed.. as I understand it there's 2 different disc sizes for front brakes on P80 cars? But both use the same calipers? In which case does it matter which hoses I get, if one is longer than the other could anyone direct me to that so it leaves the option to upgrade the discs to the bigger size in future without putting additional strain on the hoses?

Cheers!

Clan · Jun 4th, 2019, 10:35

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Originally Posted by StatusRed

So I'm going to be replacing 3 out of the 4 calipers on my C70 due to seized bleed nipples, when checking the fronts I noticed on the passenger side the rubber brake hose is pretty worn and is fraying so I'm thinking I may as well upgrade to front braided hoses...

On HEL and Goodridge there's 15" and 16" wheel hoses listed.. as I understand it there's 2 different disc sizes for front brakes on P80 cars? But both use the same calipers? In which case does it matter which hoses I get, if one is longer than the other could anyone direct me to that so it leaves the option to upgrade the discs to the bigger size in future without putting additional strain on the hoses?

Cheers!

you need to be very careful with these hoses , get the ones for what is on the car presently , they are an inch longer for a reason , it makes all the difference ...

Critical Bill · Jun 4th, 2019, 10:40

2 years ago I replaced all 4 brake hoses on my v70 with HEL and I decided to go with 16" because I wanted to upgrade to bigger discs in the future.
I didn't notice any additional strain on the hoses tbh
Atm front discs on my car are 286mm 15" and I will change them to 305mm 16" in the next couple weeks . Same caliper, same pads but different discs and caliper brackets

I think the difference is 10mm between 15" and 16"

acshortt5 · Jun 4th, 2019, 13:40

Just be aware that when buying a braided hose kit that in addition to the 15" and 16" versions there are also 4 or 5 hose versions. The difference obviously being on the rear axle.

DSK · Jun 4th, 2019, 21:56

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Originally Posted by acshortt5

Just be aware that when buying a braided hose kit that in addition to the 15" and 16" versions there are also 4 or 5 hose versions. The difference obviously being on the rear axle.

I was going to get a set of braided lines, just looking to order within 2 weeks.

I only saw 15/16" wheel options, which I assume refers to 280/302mm discs.

What is the issue that we need to be aware of on the rear? (I thought the rear ends were all one and the same).

PNuT · Jun 5th, 2019, 03:27

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Originally Posted by DSK

I was going to get a set of braided lines, just looking to order within 2 weeks.

I only saw 15/16" wheel options, which I assume refers to 280/302mm discs.

What is the issue that we need to be aware of on the rear? (I thought the rear ends were all one and the same).

Not sure how you end up with 5 hoses, but the later cars have twin lines from the front rather than just a single...

Never looked at an AWD so maybe they have yet another set up?

acshortt5 · Jun 5th, 2019, 06:38

I know for a fact that my 98 S70 had 4 hoses (2 at the rear) and my dad's old 2000my C70 T5 had 5 hoses (3 at the rear). No idea if it's just the c70s or if it's a model year change on all of them.

DSK · Jun 5th, 2019, 08:59

Thanks PNUT and ACSHORTT5.

Lastly, any votes if one is better than the other between HEL and Goodridge?

huron · Jun 5th, 2019, 11:03

All I can add is I've had Goodridge on my kit car and still going strong after 30 years.

StatusRed · Jun 6th, 2019, 09:42

I've got Goodridge on my S40 but I'm willing to give HEL a try if the price is significantly lower.

I'm not planning to change the rear lines as they look fine (curiously I notice that they're hard lines directly to the calipers, rather than flexible rubber hoses).

I'll get some 16" front hoses then, cheers guys. I am assuming the 16" hoses are the longer ones compared to the 15" ones?

Jun 4th, 2019, 10:19	#1
StatusRed Premier Member Last Online: Yesterday 19:28 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Glasgow	Braided hoses So I'm going to be replacing 3 out of the 4 calipers on my C70 due to seized bleed nipples, when checking the fronts I noticed on the passenger side the rubber brake hose is pretty worn and is fraying so I'm thinking I may as well upgrade to front braided hoses... On HEL and Goodridge there's 15" and 16" wheel hoses listed.. as I understand it there's 2 different disc sizes for front brakes on P80 cars? But both use the same calipers? In which case does it matter which hoses I get, if one is longer than the other could anyone direct me to that so it leaves the option to upgrade the discs to the bigger size in future without putting additional strain on the hoses? Cheers! __________________ 2009 S40 SE Lux 2.0i \| 2022 Suzuki V-Strom 650 \| 2002 Audi TT 225 Previous: C70 Coupe 2.4i \| Saab 9-5 Aero \| Daihatsu SporTrak

Jun 4th, 2019, 10:40	#3
Critical Bill Junior Member Last Online: Nov 7th, 2023 16:42 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Poland	2 years ago I replaced all 4 brake hoses on my v70 with HEL and I decided to go with 16" because I wanted to upgrade to bigger discs in the future. I didn't notice any additional strain on the hoses tbh Atm front discs on my car are 286mm 15" and I will change them to 305mm 16" in the next couple weeks . Same caliper, same pads but different discs and caliper brackets I think the difference is 10mm between 15" and 16" __________________ Last edited by Critical Bill; Jun 4th, 2019 at 10:47.

Jun 4th, 2019, 13:40	#4
acshortt5 Volvo Nutcase Last Online: Jul 14th, 2023 12:57 Join Date: May 2007 Location: N/A View Photos By: acshortt5	Just be aware that when buying a braided hose kit that in addition to the 15" and 16" versions there are also 4 or 5 hose versions. The difference obviously being on the rear axle. __________________ Andrew 1998 S70 T5 CD AUTO Previously a 1990 240 GLT-R

Jun 5th, 2019, 06:38	#7
acshortt5 Volvo Nutcase Last Online: Jul 14th, 2023 12:57 Join Date: May 2007 Location: N/A View Photos By: acshortt5	I know for a fact that my 98 S70 had 4 hoses (2 at the rear) and my dad's old 2000my C70 T5 had 5 hoses (3 at the rear). No idea if it's just the c70s or if it's a model year change on all of them. __________________ Andrew 1998 S70 T5 CD AUTO Previously a 1990 240 GLT-R

Jun 5th, 2019, 08:59	#8
DSK C70 T5 Last Online: Mar 23rd, 2022 21:00 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Midlands	Thanks PNUT and ACSHORTT5. Lastly, any votes if one is better than the other between HEL and Goodridge? __________________ 2000 C70 T5 GT Coupe 1998 S70R / 1995 Toyota Supra Twin Turbo 2007 Mercedes CLS 320 CDI / 2011 Mercedes S350 Bluetec 2007 Suzuki GSXR-1000

Jun 5th, 2019, 11:03	#9
huron Master Member Last Online: Dec 19th, 2020 16:24 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bodmin	All I can add is I've had Goodridge on my kit car and still going strong after 30 years. __________________ huron 2009 V70 2.4 geartronic in red.

Jun 6th, 2019, 09:42	#10
StatusRed Premier Member Last Online: Yesterday 19:28 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Glasgow	I've got Goodridge on my S40 but I'm willing to give HEL a try if the price is significantly lower. I'm not planning to change the rear lines as they look fine (curiously I notice that they're hard lines directly to the calipers, rather than flexible rubber hoses). I'll get some 16" front hoses then, cheers guys. I am assuming the 16" hoses are the longer ones compared to the 15" ones? __________________ 2009 S40 SE Lux 2.0i \| 2022 Suzuki V-Strom 650 \| 2002 Audi TT 225 Previous: C70 Coupe 2.4i \| Saab 9-5 Aero \| Daihatsu SporTrak

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