V70 Suspension: - V70 rear antiroll bar bush replacement

tykey · Feb 11th, 2013, 12:47

The rear antiroll bar on my V70 D5 is knocking, due to the rubber bushes needing replacement.
As is usual, Volvo's advice is to buy a complete roll bar at around £200.
So I bought some new bushes from Latvia for £16.
We took the bolts out of the hangers, expecting the two "U" shaped parts of the hanger to come apart. They didn't seem to want to come apart, and my engineer thought they were bonded together and didn't want to start wellying it with a chisel and hammer until we found out how other people solved the apparent problem.
So can someone please advise if they will come apart, or how they resolved it.
Thanks

sizzlechest · Feb 11th, 2013, 15:15

You'll probably need to burn the old rubber bush off with a propane torch. Well, that's what I did when replacing the front roll bar bushes.

chopper_harris · Feb 11th, 2013, 15:17

I has a similar issue with the rear ARB bushes on an e-class Merc.
Heating the ARB bracket with a hot air gun until the bush began to smoke enabled me to pull the bracket off with a pair of grips, and then cut the bush with a sharp knife.

Use a sheet of bacofoil to shield the floorpan from localised heat.

Clean the ARB and paint with rustproofer and hammerite etc, prior to fitting new bushes.

Andy Northface · Feb 12th, 2013, 08:51

Keep us informed mate...I'm doing mine shortly with those Latvian bushes,But I also have a spare ARB in my back garden to practice on,before I start ripping my car apart.

V70RMW · Feb 12th, 2013, 12:44

No not bonded together - just tricky to get apart. I can't remember exactly how I did mine except that it took a lot of force and time.

I was forced by an MOT failure into replacing a bush on a silent anti roll bar. Fitted one of the 'Latvian' bushes, passed it's MOT and now makes a hell of a racket. Such is life.

tykey · Feb 12th, 2013, 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Northface

Keep us informed mate...I'm doing mine shortly with those Latvian bushes,But I also have a spare ARB in my back garden to practice on,before I start ripping my car apart.

Hi Andy, I could always prevaricate until you do yours first!!

Andy Northface · Feb 12th, 2013, 12:58

Well,I bought a S/H bar and I thought I would just swap it over,not a chance....its a bit of a pain and you have to take most of one side of the suspension to get it off and my car was off the road for a night as I couldn't get one of the suspension arm bolts lined up. I did it the next day,,but realized that the exhaust has got to be dropped so I didn't bother swapping the ARB over. Mine aren't that bad to be honest,but I'm chasing a rattle around and thought that was it. ( it Wasn't! ) I'm gonna have a look at the brackets to see how they come apart and practice a few times so I can just bolt them straight on. Oh for poly ARB bushes......

tykey · Feb 18th, 2013, 14:36

Thanks for all the help, and I'm pleased to say all the hints helped me to crack it.

It's not as difficult as I feared.

The first thing to realise is that the two U-brackets aren't fixed or welded together, but have a locating lug on the outside bracket which fits inside the bolt hole of the inner bracket. After removing the support bolt, separate the two brackets by hammering a screw driver between the two brackets, the outer one will open a bit and drop off.

The second thing is that the rubber bush is still on the ARB and needs to be cut off, although it isn't straight forward as it's vulcanised in a couple of spots to the bar. I used a stanley knife to remove it in bits.

The next thing is cut the new bush and replace it in the brackets. Your first thought might be "this will never fit", but it does, it just needs some compression. I fitted the bush into the brackets by using a vice and left it overnight. It didn't recover it's size, and almost allowed refitting to the car. Not quite, though, and I had to get it in line with the support bolt hole by using a jack to push it up, and a hammer to nudge it sideways until the bolt slides all the way through. Tightening the bolt makes the lugs relocate properly.

It hasn't stopped the knocking, but I've the second one to do, but it holds no fears.

Thanks again

outnumbered · Feb 18th, 2013, 15:57

what size bushes did you get in the end.
mike

tykey · Feb 18th, 2013, 16:03

These were 19mm, but it's worth just checking. Just measure the diameter of the ARB, it's parallel under the bush.

Feb 11th, 2013, 12:47	#1
tykey Senior Member Last Online: Jul 14th, 2019 12:42 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: sheffield	V70 rear antiroll bar bush replacement The rear antiroll bar on my V70 D5 is knocking, due to the rubber bushes needing replacement. As is usual, Volvo's advice is to buy a complete roll bar at around £200. So I bought some new bushes from Latvia for £16. We took the bolts out of the hangers, expecting the two "U" shaped parts of the hanger to come apart. They didn't seem to want to come apart, and my engineer thought they were bonded together and didn't want to start wellying it with a chisel and hammer until we found out how other people solved the apparent problem. So can someone please advise if they will come apart, or how they resolved it. Thanks

Feb 11th, 2013, 15:15	#2
sizzlechest Junior Member Last Online: Apr 9th, 2020 15:21 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: St Helens, Merseyside	You'll probably need to burn the old rubber bush off with a propane torch. Well, that's what I did when replacing the front roll bar bushes. __________________ 2003 S60R, 11 blade compressor wheel, Todd GSX 3" DP, race-s60r intake, remap-performance remap, FMIC, D5 oil cooler

Feb 11th, 2013, 15:17	#3
chopper_harris Senior Member Last Online: Jan 1st, 2022 18:09 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Standish	I has a similar issue with the rear ARB bushes on an e-class Merc. Heating the ARB bracket with a hot air gun until the bush began to smoke enabled me to pull the bracket off with a pair of grips, and then cut the bush with a sharp knife. Use a sheet of bacofoil to shield the floorpan from localised heat. Clean the ARB and paint with rustproofer and hammerite etc, prior to fitting new bushes. __________________ V70 D5 SE Geartronic (2004, 163bhp) Winter Pack, R/Spoiler, Towbar, T5 Brake U/G

Feb 18th, 2013, 15:57	#9
outnumbered Lunatic from Wakefield Last Online: Apr 16th, 2023 06:33 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: wakefield	what size bushes did you get in the end. mike __________________ 2012 volvo xc90 Executive Buccaneer Bermuda 2021

Feb 12th, 2013, 08:51	#4
Andy Northface Where's that 18mm socket? Last Online: Apr 25th, 2016 23:01 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Normally in the dog house, Chester-Le-Street	Keep us informed mate...I'm doing mine shortly with those Latvian bushes,But I also have a spare ARB in my back garden to practice on,before I start ripping my car apart.

Feb 12th, 2013, 12:44	#5
V70RMW Master Member Last Online: Jul 4th, 2022 14:37 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kingston upon Thames	No not bonded together - just tricky to get apart. I can't remember exactly how I did mine except that it took a lot of force and time. I was forced by an MOT failure into replacing a bush on a silent anti roll bar. Fitted one of the 'Latvian' bushes, passed it's MOT and now makes a hell of a racket. Such is life.

Feb 12th, 2013, 12:58	#7
Andy Northface Where's that 18mm socket? Last Online: Apr 25th, 2016 23:01 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Normally in the dog house, Chester-Le-Street	Well,I bought a S/H bar and I thought I would just swap it over,not a chance....its a bit of a pain and you have to take most of one side of the suspension to get it off and my car was off the road for a night as I couldn't get one of the suspension arm bolts lined up. I did it the next day,,but realized that the exhaust has got to be dropped so I didn't bother swapping the ARB over. Mine aren't that bad to be honest,but I'm chasing a rattle around and thought that was it. ( it Wasn't! ) I'm gonna have a look at the brackets to see how they come apart and practice a few times so I can just bolt them straight on. Oh for poly ARB bushes......

Feb 18th, 2013, 14:36	#8
tykey Senior Member Last Online: Jul 14th, 2019 12:42 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: sheffield	Thanks for all the help, and I'm pleased to say all the hints helped me to crack it. It's not as difficult as I feared. The first thing to realise is that the two U-brackets aren't fixed or welded together, but have a locating lug on the outside bracket which fits inside the bolt hole of the inner bracket. After removing the support bolt, separate the two brackets by hammering a screw driver between the two brackets, the outer one will open a bit and drop off. The second thing is that the rubber bush is still on the ARB and needs to be cut off, although it isn't straight forward as it's vulcanised in a couple of spots to the bar. I used a stanley knife to remove it in bits. The next thing is cut the new bush and replace it in the brackets. Your first thought might be "this will never fit", but it does, it just needs some compression. I fitted the bush into the brackets by using a vice and left it overnight. It didn't recover it's size, and almost allowed refitting to the car. Not quite, though, and I had to get it in line with the support bolt hole by using a jack to push it up, and a hammer to nudge it sideways until the bolt slides all the way through. Tightening the bolt makes the lugs relocate properly. It hasn't stopped the knocking, but I've the second one to do, but it holds no fears. Thanks again

Feb 18th, 2013, 16:03	#10
tykey Senior Member Last Online: Jul 14th, 2019 12:42 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: sheffield	These were 19mm, but it's worth just checking. Just measure the diameter of the ARB, it's parallel under the bush.

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