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940 Turbo Drift Car / Pickup Project

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Old Jul 13th, 2020, 08:54   #21
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There are a few pickups knocking about, I have been considering doing it to one of my 960's but really need to get our 240 pick up rebuilt.


300 BHP is not too hard to do without going to major on mods, 400 is really a bit past what LH2.4 can support.

The grippers diffs are very good, I have sold a lot to guys for drifting and the work very well. The quaife diffs are also good but not quite as good for all out motorsport
When you say LH2.4 what is that?

I think the gripper diff is the one I'm going to go with.
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When you say LH2.4 what is that?
The standard EFI system in the 940. Well, one of the standard EFI systems in the 940.
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Sorry to be boring, but don't forget that if you convert it to a pickup it'll never be legally registered. Body mods on that scale mean it loses the identity in the eyes of the DVLA, and would need an IVA and a new registration. There's no IVA scheme for light commercial vehicles, which makes it tricky to get it on the road legally!

Fine if you're planning on just enjoying it for a short time, but be prepared to lose the ability to use it if the DVLA catch up with you

More info here:

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registrat...tered-vehicles

Looking forward to seeing what you do
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LH2.4 is the factory fuel system used in 940's. You can do a fair bit with it but the more power you are chasing the better off you will be with a aftermarket managment that can be programmed to the engine
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Old Jul 13th, 2020, 11:28   #25
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Sorry to be boring, but don't forget that if you convert it to a pickup it'll never be legally registered. Body mods on that scale mean it loses the identity in the eyes of the DVLA, and would need an IVA and a new registration. There's no IVA scheme for light commercial vehicles, which makes it tricky to get it on the road legally!

Fine if you're planning on just enjoying it for a short time, but be prepared to lose the ability to use it if the DVLA catch up with you

More info here:

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registrat...tered-vehicles

Looking forward to seeing what you do
I'm confused Jim - there's a guy that's been in Practical Classics a few times recently because of some Rover 75s he's converted. One was to a replica (of the prototype) of the 75 Coupe, 2 more became a "push-me-pull-you" double-fronted beast and the fourth is a pick up.
All three are legally registered (albeit on a "Q" plate) so i'm guessing there's a loophole somewhere?

I also know of a double-headed 827, created as an art students project and then sold to its current owner, again legally registered and with an MoT now (at least i'm fairly sure it passed the MoT) so the loophole must be there somewhere?
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I've saw the Rover with the two front ends in about 2013 at the three counties show ground, very interesting creation.
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I'm confused Jim - there's a guy that's been in Practical Classics a few times recently because of some Rover 75s he's converted. One was to a replica (of the prototype) of the 75 Coupe, 2 more became a "push-me-pull-you" double-fronted beast and the fourth is a pick up.
All three are legally registered (albeit on a "Q" plate) so i'm guessing there's a loophole somewhere?

I also know of a double-headed 827, created as an art students project and then sold to its current owner, again legally registered and with an MoT now (at least i'm fairly sure it passed the MoT) so the loophole must be there somewhere?
A quick internet search revealed that he's also been in Autocar :



https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/f...rover-75-coupe

All three cars have Q plates but none are as the factory built them!

Obviously a way somehow to get a pick up registered when it's been built from a car - and a Coupe and push-me-pull-you as well!

The question is, how?
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Old Jul 13th, 2020, 12:05   #28
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I'm confused Jim - there's a guy that's been in Practical Classics a few times recently because of some Rover 75s he's converted. One was to a replica (of the prototype) of the 75 Coupe, 2 more became a "push-me-pull-you" double-fronted beast and the fourth is a pick up.
All three are legally registered (albeit on a "Q" plate) so i'm guessing there's a loophole somewhere?

I also know of a double-headed 827, created as an art students project and then sold to its current owner, again legally registered and with an MoT now (at least i'm fairly sure it passed the MoT) so the loophole must be there somewhere?
Those cars will have been IVA tested, hence the Q plates. Q is for vehicles of unknown age or origin, or radically altered vehicles.

The pickup is a strange one, as there isn't an IVA test for N1 category (light commercials). It must have got the right people at the DVSA office who tested it as M1 (passenger car) category, been downplated to restrict the carrying capacity, or had some extra seats in the back for the test.

The thing that makes a vehicle a light commercial is the weight of the goods it can carry being more than the weight of the passengers (considering a nominal 75kg per seating position)
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Coupe and push-me-pull-you as well!

The question is, how?
The Coupe and push-me-pull-you are both M1 category, so the M1 IVA manual would apply

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...le-category-m1

The problem is the pickup doesn't fall in that M1 category.
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Thanks for the clarification Jim, i suppose another way round it would be a plate somewhere in the buck of the pick up stating "Max weight 225kg" (three rear seat passengers @ 75kg each) so it wasn't exceeding the original payload. I wonder if the originaal GVW would be effected or whether that would still apply and give some extra load capability?
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