Ford or Volvo engine?

[Clan]

Originally Posted by Crazy LEDs

A lot of Ford banter on here?
From Ph2 onwards did ford build the 2.3T engines also?
I was chuffed with my Ph2 T5 until it seems a lot think build quality is crap compared to volvos of yester year

fords influence didnt come into it until about 2005 .... now it's on the way out again ..

[big_ben]

Originally Posted by Dibble

Interesting Clan. Difficult to know if we are getting a proper Volvo engine these days. One of the main reasons I drive Volvo is because of the superb reliability of the Volvo engine. Some might disagree with me but that has been my experience over the last 40 years with Volvo.

I wasn't aware Volvo ever made their own engines until recently. Everything i had in the past had either Renault or Audi units.

When buying the 2005 D5 the salesman ststed it was the first time Volvo had designed their own Diesel for a passanger car. He generaly knows his stuff so i took his word for it

[BillB]

Originally Posted by big_ben

I wasn't aware Volvo ever made their own engines until recently.

.....the salesman ststed it was the first time Volvo had designed their own Diesel for a passanger car. He generaly knows his stuff so i took his word for it

He was talking about Diesel only. The 4 and 5 cylinder petrol engines used in all the "big" Volvos are Volvo through and through although I'm not sure about later V70s. The B23/B230 "redblock" used in 1/2/7/9 series are legendary. The 850 and earlier V70 Tdi use the Audi sourced unit (modified by Volvo) - damn good engine (I have one), maybe better than Volvo's own common rail D5......

[artiedtke]

Originally Posted by BillB

maybe better than Volvo's own common rail D5......

now this IS a comment for discussion.....

we have both in the family and both are very very good.

[BillB]

From past posts I understand there are issues with D5 injectors? Also, although quieter and more powerful I wonder if the D5 can match the Audi engine for economy. My Tdi has been showing over 50 mpg for some time now. It is of almost legendary status being used in countless Golfs, Passats, Audis and Skodas mostly in 1.9 litre form before they resorted to common rail like Volvo and everyone else. Regards.

[artiedtke]

Originally Posted by BillB

From past posts I understand there are issues with D5 injectors? Also, although quieter and more powerful I wonder if the D5 can match the Audi engine for economy. My Tdi has been showing over 50 mpg for some time now. It is of almost legendary status being used in countless Golfs, Passats, Audis and Skodas mostly in 1.9 litre form before they resorted to common rail like Volvo and everyone else. Regards.

Hmmmm, I get an indicated 45mpg average out of mine and a calculated monthly average of about 40 - 43 mpg also.

However I do tend to give it some stick....