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Old Oct 27th, 2019, 12:13   #11
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Not in my experience. It had no scrap of a cap on it for five years!
Since that 940 was written off by third party criminals in September, I bought another yesterday, beautifully maintained by a semi-retired antiques dealer who spared no expense at Brayden to keep it proper. One of the few things wrong with it, you guessed, broken red cap. Passed the MOT every time without that as an advisory.
Shouldn't have done!

http://www.ukmot.com/manual/1.4/Flashing-Type#MOT

Check what's written there - the important bit is "Reason for Rejection
1. A selector switch missing, insecure, faulty, or not able to be operated from the.............."

The MoT is all down to interpretation for a lot of things but i would think that's fairly unabiguous. If the red cap is missing, it's also faulty and doesn't provide the red tell tale.

Note that on the Volvo the red tell-tale isn't necessarily a problem as both indicator tell-tales flash with the hazards but the missing part of the switch should be.
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Old Oct 27th, 2019, 12:46   #12
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Nonsense on stilts.

The selctor switch is not missing, insecure, faulty, or not able to be operated from the.............."

There is simply a piece missing that would provide a nice colour to the tell tale light and make it nicer to operate the switch. Not faulty.

Faulty would mean not operating correctly. Simple English.

It is still ABLE TO BE OPERATED.

PASS.

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Volvo seem to have [had] a blind eye re this. Is it similar to the cover that often broke on the 740?

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Nonsense on stilts.

The selctor switch is not missing, insecure, faulty, or not able to be operated from the.............."

There is simply a piece missing that would provide a nice colour to the tell tale light and make it nicer to operate the switch. Not faulty.

Faulty would mean not operating correctly. Simple English.

It is still ABLE TO BE OPERATED.

PASS.

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Volvo seem to have [had] a blind eye re this. Is it similar to the cover that often broke on the 740?

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Old Oct 27th, 2019, 13:16   #14
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Contined nonsense on stilts. The rule is good. This rule says what is required. It does not require anything else. It does not require that cover. Absence of that cover is not "faulty". Faulty??? The switch works in every respect so far as we have been informed.

Simples.

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Absence of that cover is not "faulty".

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When you've renewed as many as i have due to MoT failures, then try and argue.
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hi all
when i get one it looks to me as it just needs sliding on and locating on the 2 tiny lugs on the cover diffuser ! hopefully .if any one comes across one please let me know.
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when i get one it looks to me as it just needs sliding on and locating on the 2 tiny lugs on the cover diffuser ! hopefully .if any one comes across one please let me know.
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If you can get just the cap/diffuser then you're laughing Jim! The majority of the ones i had to replace way back when were on Fords (mainly Escorts/Orions etc) that used a similar thing and 9 times out of 10 it was the plastic lug on the cap that had broken.
Back then Ford would only sell the complete indicator stalk!

I guess Volvo would be the same if you could find the part but i daresay a pattern parts manufacturer has made some caps.
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David. Five years of tests, and the wording of the rule, all say PASS. Anyways there's no argument. You and I are disagreed.

Eric. You want a replacement cap. So would I. Good luck.

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As i said in my original post, the MoT rules are open to interpretation. Please read ALL of my posts carefully BEFORE making stupid or otherwise inflammatory remarks about them! Thank you!

If you've had 5 consecutive passes with a missing cap it's probably because you've got a 240 and it still has the old style rocker switch for the hazards. If Volvo changed it to the later one and it's missing, you have a very friendly MoT tester.
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Me, I wouldn't care a toss about pass or fail. If it were my car all I would want is the proper 'cap' on the hazard button. Final word! Bob
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