Engine system service required

[SteveSk]

Evening,
I’ve a 57 plate V70 D5 with this message in amber on the dash.
Last week it passed Mot and have new oil, 8 litres, and a new oil filter.
No message until yesterday.
I checked the level and it was max and the handbook says 6 L capacity.
I took it back to the garage and had a couple of litres drained off. On the stick it was between min and max.
I’ve driven 200 miles and the light has stayed on.

I had a similar problem last year when I put a little too much oil in, but the light reset a few days after draining some off.

The light remains on tonigh. After a 5 mile drive and an hour to cool, the level was up near the max.

Should I get another couple of litres removed, wait a few days or get the codes read?

Thanks in advance

[Kev0607]

The car only needs 5.7 litres of oil (3/4 on the dipstick)... Its probably still too high & you'll need to drain some oil from the car. The light will eventually turn off in time once you've drained some oil, but a garage could turn it off with VIDA once the oil level is correct (If you want to get rid of the light sooner).

The handbook says 6L of oil is required, but after production, there were issues with rising oil levels due to failed DPF regenerations. Volvo recalled their cars & recalibrated the dipstick so the car thinks the engine oil is maximum at 3/4 on the dipstick (5.7 litres). Add any more than 5.7 litres & you'll get the "Engine system service required" light.

So, for future reference if you're adding oil to the engine or servicing the car yourself... Don't fill the car to max on the dipstick, only fill to 3/4 (5.7 litres). If a garage changed the oil for you this time around, then I'd recommend bringing your car to a Volvo specialist in future (If you don't do DIY that is). If the garage knew anything about Volvo's & they did service the car (Not clear whether they did service your car in your post), they'd know about the dipstick calibration that Volvo did & wouldn't have added too much oil in the first place.

[SteveSk]

That’s very helpful Kev,
Thanks a lot.
I’ll get another 2 litres drained tomorrow and let you know how I get on.
Thanks again

[Tatsfield]

Originally Posted by SteveSk

That’s very helpful Kev,
Thanks a lot.
I’ll get another 2 litres drained tomorrow and let you know how I get on.
Thanks again

The car had 8 litres. You took out 2 litres leaving 6 litres. The car needs 5.7 litres so don't take out another 2 litres as that would leave only 4 litres and that would be seriously under filled. Take out just 300 ml to reduce the fill to 5.7 litres and the light and warning should go out on their own.

[green van man]

Originally Posted by Kev0607

The car only needs 5.7 litres of oil (3/4 on the dipstick)... Its probably still too high & you'll need to drain some oil from the car. The light will eventually turn off in time once you've drained some oil, but a garage could turn it off with VIDA once the oil level is correct (If you want to get rid of the light sooner).

The handbook says 6L of oil is required, but after production, there were issues with rising oil levels due to failed DPF regenerations. Volvo recalled their cars & recalibrated the dipstick so the car thinks the engine oil is maximum at 3/4 on the dipstick (5.7 litres). Add any more than 5.7 litres & you'll get the "Engine system service required" light.

So, for future reference if you're adding oil to the engine or servicing the car yourself... Don't fill the car to max on the dipstick, only fill to 3/4 (5.7 litres). If a garage changed the oil for you this time around, then I'd recommend bringing your car to a Volvo specialist in future (If you don't do DIY that is). If the garage knew anything about Volvo's & they did service the car (Not clear whether they did service your car in your post), they'd know about the dipstick calibration that Volvo did & wouldn't have added too much oil in the first place.

This happened to my car after service this year. My car is always serviced at a volvo main dealer.
Remember it's £80 to connect it to diagnosis, then labour to correct the fault plus reset the warning light. Nice little earner to suck half a litre out of a sump they overfilled.

I suspected imediatly what was wrong, a dipstick check confirmed it backed up by my own diognostic machine. Suck half a litre out the sump, cancel the logged fault and visited the dealer to let them know I was aware of the issue and had corrected it myself so they don't try it next year.

Paul.

[SteveSk]

Originally Posted by Tatsfield

The car had 8 litres. You took out 2 litres leaving 6 litres. The car needs 5.7 litres so don't take out another 2 litres as that would leave only 4 litres and that would be seriously under filled. Take out just 300 ml to reduce the fill to 5.7 litres and the light and warning should go out on their own.

I see your maths but unfortunately I’m not sure how well he measured this.
So, I planned to work on that there is now around 6litres in, take out 2 more and wait for the light to go out.
Then had 100ml at a time myself until it’s 3/4 on the dipstick.
Would having 4L of a 5.7L capacity make a major difference?
Thanks

[SteveSk]

Originally Posted by Tatsfield

The car had 8 litres. You took out 2 litres leaving 6 litres. The car needs 5.7 litres so don't take out another 2 litres as that would leave only 4 litres and that would be seriously under filled. Take out just 300 ml to reduce the fill to 5.7 litres and the light and warning should go out on their own.

Originally Posted by green van man

This happened to my car after service this year. My car is always serviced at a volvo main dealer.
Remember it's £80 to connect it to diagnosis, then labour to correct the fault plus reset the warning light. Nice little earner to suck half a litre out of a sump they overfilled.

I suspected imediatly what was wrong, a dipstick check confirmed it backed up by my own diognostic machine. Suck half a litre out the sump, cancel the logged fault and visited the dealer to let them know I was aware of the issue and had corrected it myself so they don't try it next year.

Paul.

Hi Paul
Can you manually reset this warning without the use of a machine, or will it need the garage if taking the oil out doesn’t sort the light?
Thanks a lot

[Tatsfield]

Originally Posted by SteveSk

I see your maths but unfortunately I’m not sure how well he measured this.
So, I planned to work on that there is now around 6litres in, take out 2 more and wait for the light to go out.
Then had 100ml at a time myself until it’s 3/4 on the dipstick.
Would having 4L of a 5.7L capacity make a major difference?
Thanks

Seems an excessive amount to remove but if you are not running the engine it will not matter. But if you think that there is about 6 litres in there, taking out one litre should be more than enough to bring the level below 5.7 litres and will save you 10 x 100 ml fills!

[cheshired5]

Instead of guessing, why not just drain completely into a clean container and reuse the oil but measure correctly 2nd time?
On a Euro 4, my preference is to put in 5.5 litres and leave it at that.
Plenty above minimum and plenty left for expansion.

[SteveSk]

Originally Posted by Tatsfield

Seems an excessive amount to remove but if you are not running the engine it will not matter. But if you think that there is about 6 litres in there, taking out one litre should be more than enough to bring the level below 5.7 litres and will save you 10 x 100 ml fills!

Sensible, thanks.
I took it back up to the garage an hour ago and he rechecked it on the flat after a 3 mile drive.
The level is sitting directly between max and min so we left it at that.
I’m going to see if it goes off by itself. If it doesn’t the other mechanic who can use the code reader will check the codes and reset it.
Meanwhile, I’ve parked it facing up our steep drive instead of down it to see if that fools the sensor.
Thanks for your time.