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Mar 4th, 2006, 11:05 | #1 |
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ETM replacement, VOLVO contribution
What is the most Volvo have offered anybody as a good will contribution towards ETM replacement?
VolvoUK has just offered me 5% assuming the dealership matches it. (The car has a Full Volvo service history with 86K miles) Poor offer I reckon seeing as with VOC membership I can get 10% anyway. Full dealership price for replacement is £614. Patrick
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Mar 6th, 2006, 17:51 | #2 |
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OK,
VolvoUK is only going to offer me 5% as a good will gesture. As I see it, I have the following case against VolvoUK. 1. Previously Volvo has offered up to 50% Good will gesture, thus setting a president. To offer any less than 50% is prejudiced. 2. Volvo advertise their cars as "some of the safest cars in the world" however this component fails without warning, hardly very safe after all, hence the product (car) has been mis-advertised. As a safety issue alone Volvo ought to recall these dangerous ETM's and offer the customer a replacement that is both reliable and offers the consumer peace of mind that they are in fact driving a safe car. 3. After I spend £617 on a replacement ETM, I have no gaurantee that this component is any safer than the previous defective one. So as a consumer I am forced to purchase a product that I know has an inherent and dangerous problem. Volvo has yet to design a replacement in keeping with Volvo's safety record. 4. The recent public awareness with regard to the defective ETM's has undoubtedly had a negative effect on residual values, reinforcing the fact that Volvo should offer a reliable replacement or offer the consumer compensation to match the fall in values of their cars. I am collecting the car on Wednesday, I have decided not to accept Volvo's 5%, as it equates to a measly £30. The dealership has kindly offered my 10% as per the VOC discount. Hence the same discount anyway. I don't really have the time, but I am very annoyed at Volvo and I am keen to persue a case in a small claim court. I believe Volvo has mishandled this ETS issue and are hoping the problem will go away in time. Any advice would be much appreciated. This is your opportunity as well! Your thoughts and comments please. Patrick
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Mar 6th, 2006, 19:12 | #3 |
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Stating the obvious....
This might be stating the obvious, but has anyone got one of these defunct ETMs and taken it to an electronics expert / TV repair shop / local geek and seen if it can be repaired and/or refurbished? Surely it is just based around a pretty simple Potentiometer?
Just a though. Philip |
Mar 6th, 2006, 19:51 | #4 |
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Check out the following thread:
http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showth...t=8536&page=18 item 173 Patrick
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Mar 6th, 2006, 21:25 | #5 |
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Ah
Ah, I see:- been there tried that!
Oh well, keep up the pressure on Volvo. Philip |
Mar 8th, 2006, 08:49 | #6 |
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ETM Contribution
Volvo UK have offered me 20% of the £626 cost. I told them that I found that insulting and left it at that.
So far I've sent letters to CAR Magazine, TOP GEAR, AutoExpress, What Car, VOSA, and a few others..... I was in a bad mood. Got to wonder whether anyone will respond |
Mar 8th, 2006, 10:40 | #7 |
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I am not sure if you saw my posts on the other ETM thread (we seem to have two threads on the same topic). I also wrote to Top Gear (probably a waste of time as, in my opinion, the program now is more about celebrity than cars). Although, if there is a chance they may act we should certainly give it a go. The Head of Vehicle Safety (VOSA) is Mr Jeffrey Sweeting, tel. 0117 9543245. There is a Motoring Department at Which? Magazine (e-mail editor@which.co.uk). Both VOSA and Which have previously shown some interest. As Watchdog has already run a feature maybe we should ensure they know that Volvo are not solving the problem.
As I said on the other thread, unless we keep up the pressure, Volvo UK / Ford will simply laugh off the whole faulty ETM issue. And as it does not affect new cars, they may well get away with this. Melvyn |
Mar 8th, 2006, 12:13 | #8 |
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Just spoke with Andrew Taviner at the The Head of Vehicle Safety Department (VOSA), very helpful. He explained that they had received numerious reports of this defect. He is going to send me out a reporting form which I am only to eager to complete and return to the VOSA. This matter can then be taken up with VolvoUK.
Patrick
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Mar 8th, 2006, 17:47 | #9 |
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VolvoUK, unreasonable
Finally got my car back today, my wallet is £553.36 the lighter for it.
The Dealer followed through and gave me a 10% discount on the component and work. Car seems fine now. I also received a letter from VolvoUK Customer relations. The letter explains that they are prepared to offer me 10%, this statement conflicts with what they said over the phone only two days ago, which was 5%. I explained the nature of the failure, i.e. the component failed without warning with potential fatal consequences, and they still believe this is not a safety issue! I asked for Volvo's company policy regarding the issuing of Good Will Gestures and they are not prepared to provide me with this document assuming they have one. Patrick
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Mar 9th, 2006, 12:43 | #10 |
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OK, I have contacted both VOSA and Which, anybody else you can think of while I am at it?
Patrick
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