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Old Dec 26th, 2006, 19:01   #51
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My 2002 V70 T5 seems to have had the same problem as everyone else's:
Some torque steer even when new, but after 50K miles the precision of the steering went downhill fast.

I have just replaced the wishbones, supplied from
http://www.partsforvolvosonline.com/...oducts_id=3216
The bushes in these parts are rubber, not nylon, but firmer (& cheaper) than the original spec. Perhaps they are not oil-filled? Anyway, the steering is more precise than it's ever been; little torque-steer, even with a heavy foot in low gear. On the downside, there's more vibration from the road surface fed back through the steering wheel, which can get tiring on long journeys.

So I'd say - for a comfy ride, choose the original equipt, for a street racer, the polyflex, but for a reasonable compromise, the plain rubber.

You pay's your money, you takes your choice....

so am i right in thinking that both bushes come fitted to this wishbone?

if so does anybody know the quality and what kind of job is it removing the old and fitting these new ones i am quite mechanically minded but dont have any specialist tools?

any advice at all welcome on this one before i go and make a mess

ha

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Old Jan 2nd, 2007, 19:27   #52
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The Powerflex bushes will perform much better that standard Volvo regardless of standard bush or sc. Police bushing.
Buy the Powerflex with confidence, I had my doubts but they are not noisy or stiff, road noice are not an issue, however they perform flawless in terms of road performance, better steering, better road, hold better everything.

I am now up to buy a 2007 S60, if Volvo hasn't changed the bushes then I will change them to Powerflex bush directly.
I have read that the S60 with the sc. "Active" trim level have solid bushes from year 2007... wonder if they have learned something.

Get the Powerflex, check the links, and make a 4.wheel alignement and you will get a car better than new from Volvo.

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Old Jan 3rd, 2007, 17:19   #53
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The Powerflex bushes will perform much better that standard Volvo regardless of standard bush or sc. Police bushing.
Buy the Powerflex with confidence, I had my doubts but they are not noisy or stiff, road noice are not an issue, however they perform flawless in terms of road performance, better steering, better road, hold better everything.

I am now up to buy a 2007 S60, if Volvo hasn't changed the bushes then I will change them to Powerflex bush directly.
I have read that the S60 with the sc. "Active" trim level have solid bushes from year 2007... wonder if they have learned something.

Get the Powerflex, check the links, and make a 4.wheel alignement and you will get a car better than new from Volvo.

- Johan
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think its the way forward

youve made my mind up

how about i buy the wishbones with the standard bush in it then use the necceserys from the new bushes to make powerflex then fit back in new wishbone and have fitted?

seems better than messing with old parts?
whats your oppinion?
less work for the garage to do then?

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Old Jan 3rd, 2007, 18:47   #54
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Garages normaly don't like to mess with the Powerflex bushes.
The old rubber in the factory bush needs to be burnt off and they dont like doing the job..

I looked in the Volvo garage scrap bin and found 2 old bushes, burned off the rubber myself (do it outside) then just used the collar and pin and pressed the Powerflex in place. It doesn't look that it will fit but as the tale "if it don't work with force use more".
The the garaged fitted the complet bush asembly pressing it in place on the wishbone arms just like a ordinary bush change.
They was very sceptical that the bush would work but I showed the solution to a problem they didn't think could be fixed

You need a lot of heat, from a butan burner or such, then heat and use a wire brush to clean, heat and clean, heat and clean. WHen done let cool down and clean again. Use lots of copper grease to lube the Powerflex bush and press the collar over it as first step then press fit the pin.
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Old Jan 4th, 2007, 07:29   #55
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05 MY S60 T5, 17" Wheels and Pirellis

I do not seem to suffer too badly with tramlining despite the above combination (I do have an annoying vibration at certain speeds which I think (hope) is an ongoing wheel balance issue which I put down to how crap these tyres are).

Reason for posting is to ask whether tyre pressures play any part in the tramlining/vagueness issue? I know some cars/wheel/tyre combinations can be very sensitive to this. I wonder what people who do and do not suffer with the issue are running? I run factory (normal driving) recommended and as I say do not seem to suffer.
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i was realy looking foward to getting the S60 but after reading some of the posts am starting to worry about getting will someone plz tell me that i'm worrying over nothing and that they are a great car to own and drive

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Came from a Saab 9-5 Aero and love it.
Have an Audio Cab S4 and sometimes take S60 in preference.
Does that help? :-)
It is however an oldish design due for replacement so keep that in mind.
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Old Jan 8th, 2007, 18:29   #58
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tks m8 was just worried that i'd get rid of a good mk3 golf gti and end up with something i would want to burn i know it won't handle like the gti but don't mind that as wife is havin our first kid so comfort and safty comes first and the 60 looks great to me.


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I was having the same problem until recently on my S60 2005. Since I have changed to my winter tyres (same dimension, 17'' alloy wheels) the whole tramlining feeling vanished!! I couldn't believe that Pirelli's could be such a bad choice, but now I am 100% convinced! next step is bying the Powerflex bushes in order to avoid the other and more unwanted effect: the grinding noise when sharp turning, as if the tyre rubers on the fender.
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Old Jan 9th, 2007, 12:37   #60
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i was realy looking foward to getting the S60 but after reading some of the posts am starting to worry about getting will someone plz tell me that i'm worrying over nothing and that they are a great car to own and drive

tks in advance
no matter what car you buy they all have problems!!!
here you can see and will get to know everything you need to, the s60 is a great car i also have a mercedes s320 cdi and im not saying that the s60 is better or even as good but nott bloody far of in respect of cost power comfort etc etc
blows the socks off my old 156 jtd also 2.4 common rail
much much much better than my sisters golf gt tdi
hand down one of the best cars pound for pound about so far
very easy to work on with regards servicing and changing disks and pads etc on your drive if your into that sort of thing !!!
very comfy to boot

just buy it you wont be sorry (obviously only speaking from experience of the oil burners)lol.
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