V50 General : - Confused on engine types. Are any Ford?

Cypher007 · Jun 11th, 2019, 23:34

Looking at V50’s on autotrader and getting proper confused.

I’ve seen a 2010 D2 that says it’s an 8v, so good I assume. With 6 speed box.
I’ve also seen a drive 2011 that has 16v, so bad I assume. With what looks like a 6 speed box.

Both 113bhp?

Also are any Ford based?

T5R92011 · Jun 12th, 2019, 01:18

Petrol engines badges:
1.6 is a Ford engine
1.8 is a Ford/Mazda engine.
2.0 is a Ford/Mazda engine.
2.4i is a Volvo Engine (5 cylinder non turbo)
T5 is a 2.5-litre Volvo Engine (5 cylinder turbo)

Diesel engines badges:
1.6d is a PSA/Ford engine.
'DrivE' is just a 1.6d with start/stop technology, 'better' aerodynamics and low rolling resistance tyres.
2.0d is PSA/Ford engine.
D2 is a rebadged 1.6d PSA/Ford engine.
D3 is a 2.0-litre Volvo Engine (5 cylinder)
D4 is a 2.0-litre Volvo Engine (5 cylinder)
D5 is a 2.4-litre Volvo Engine (5 cylinder)

iainmd · Jun 12th, 2019, 10:59

Slight update/amendment/addition:

Diesel engines badges:
1.6d is a 16v PSA/Ford engine with a wet DPF (higher maintenance costs)
DRIVe <2010 is just a 1.6d with 'better' aerodynamics and low rolling resistance tyres and has no start/stop.
2.0d is PSA/Ford engine.
D2 is a rebadged 8v 1.6d PSA/Ford engine with a dry DPF.
DRIVe >2010 is just a D2 with 'better' aerodynamics and low rolling resistance tyres and has start/stop.
D3 is a 2.0-litre 20v Volvo Engine (5 cylinder)
D4 is a 2.0-litre 20v Volvo Engine (5 cylinder)
D5 is a 2.4-litre 20v Volvo Engine (5 cylinder)

LizardOfBodom · Jun 12th, 2019, 13:03

Thanks to both of you, was wondering about the chaotic of those "D" engines names some time ago..
whats the diff between D3 and D4 - any physical difference (turbo size etc) or just mapping?

iainmd · Jun 12th, 2019, 16:24

Given you can remap a D3 to D4 specs and beyond my guess is D3 is a de-tuned D4. There may be some subtle differences otherwise but can't be sure.

Welton · Jun 12th, 2019, 16:42

In next week's lesson we learn about the new Audi Badges:

30 TSFi
35 TSFi

etc etc

iainmd · Jun 12th, 2019, 18:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welton

In next week's lesson we learn about the new Audi Badges:

30 TSFi
35 TSFi

etc etc

I've not got round to trying to work out what on earth that naming convention is yet.

iainmd · Jun 12th, 2019, 18:17

Stop the bus.... here it is converted from kW!

30 = 109-122bhp
35 = 148-161bhp
40 = 168-201bhp
45 = 227-248bhp
50 = 282-308bhp
55 = 245-329bhp
60 = 429-456bhp
70 = 536bhp+

What were Audi on? It's pretty confusing TBH.

Welton · Jun 13th, 2019, 07:36

Well there you have it! thanks.

Imagine how that system will get abused in the future with second hand cars and owners swapping numbers about to make the car appear more powerful.

Clan · Jun 13th, 2019, 10:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by iainmd

Stop the bus.... here it is converted from kW!

30 = 109-122bhp
35 = 148-161bhp
40 = 168-201bhp
45 = 227-248bhp
50 = 282-308bhp
55 = 245-329bhp
60 = 429-456bhp
70 = 536bhp+

What were Audi on? It's pretty confusing TBH.

Thats exactly the same as the volvo T2 to T8 and D2 to D6 designations which came in 10 years ago , it refers to a power band NOT an engine type .

Jun 11th, 2019, 23:34	#1
Cypher007 Master Member Last Online: Jan 8th, 2024 14:20 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Lincolnshire	Confused on engine types. Are any Ford? Looking at V50’s on autotrader and getting proper confused. I’ve seen a 2010 D2 that says it’s an 8v, so good I assume. With 6 speed box. I’ve also seen a drive 2011 that has 16v, so bad I assume. With what looks like a 6 speed box. Both 113bhp? Also are any Ford based? __________________ Volvo 854 T5R Yellow 1994 Aquamist 2D (Don & Aquamist) BMC panel filter (Don) Ferrita Cat Back (Don) Denso Iridium Spark Plugs (Hong Kong) PowerFlex Top Engine Mount (?) PowerFlex Wishbone Bushes (Elk Parts) 302mm front brake upgrade Goodridge front hoses (rears to be fitted later) 600W Inverter (ebay) History: 1991 Volvo 340DL (1982) 1994 Volvo 360GLE (1989) 1999 Volvo 360GLT (1988) 2002 Volvo 850GLT (1991) 2004 Volvo 850T5R (1994)

Jun 12th, 2019, 01:18	#2
T5R92011 FCW Auto Service Last Online: Yesterday 19:40 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Gloucester	Petrol engines badges: 1.6 is a Ford engine 1.8 is a Ford/Mazda engine. 2.0 is a Ford/Mazda engine. 2.4i is a Volvo Engine (5 cylinder non turbo) T5 is a 2.5-litre Volvo Engine (5 cylinder turbo) Diesel engines badges: 1.6d is a PSA/Ford engine. 'DrivE' is just a 1.6d with start/stop technology, 'better' aerodynamics and low rolling resistance tyres. 2.0d is PSA/Ford engine. D2 is a rebadged 1.6d PSA/Ford engine. D3 is a 2.0-litre Volvo Engine (5 cylinder) D4 is a 2.0-litre Volvo Engine (5 cylinder) D5 is a 2.4-litre Volvo Engine (5 cylinder) __________________ FCW Auto Service (Gloucester) https://www.fcw-autoservice.com Last edited by T5R92011; Jun 12th, 2019 at 01:25.

Jun 12th, 2019, 10:59	#3
iainmd Member Last Online: Today 09:24 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Fife View Photos By: iainmd	Slight update/amendment/addition: Diesel engines badges: 1.6d is a 16v PSA/Ford engine with a wet DPF (higher maintenance costs) DRIVe <2010 is just a 1.6d with 'better' aerodynamics and low rolling resistance tyres and has no start/stop. 2.0d is PSA/Ford engine. D2 is a rebadged 8v 1.6d PSA/Ford engine with a dry DPF. DRIVe >2010 is just a D2 with 'better' aerodynamics and low rolling resistance tyres and has start/stop. D3 is a 2.0-litre 20v Volvo Engine (5 cylinder) D4 is a 2.0-litre 20v Volvo Engine (5 cylinder) D5 is a 2.4-litre 20v Volvo Engine (5 cylinder) __________________ Present: 2009 Volvo V50 1.6D DRIVe SE Past: 2004 Volvo S40 T5 SE Last edited by iainmd; Jun 12th, 2019 at 11:06.

Jun 12th, 2019, 13:03	#4
LizardOfBodom WowIcanwriteAnythingHere! Last Online: Mar 26th, 2024 16:05 Join Date: May 2016 Location: Dublin/Meath	Thanks to both of you, was wondering about the chaotic of those "D" engines names some time ago.. whats the diff between D3 and D4 - any physical difference (turbo size etc) or just mapping? __________________ 2005 V50 T5AWD M66, Stage1 Hilton tune E-focus torque mount, E46 bi-xenon retrofit v2 , (also available in PDF form), DTSC fully-off mod, Brembo discs+ATE ceramic pads

Jun 12th, 2019, 16:24	#5
iainmd Member Last Online: Today 09:24 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Fife View Photos By: iainmd	Given you can remap a D3 to D4 specs and beyond my guess is D3 is a de-tuned D4. There may be some subtle differences otherwise but can't be sure. __________________ Present: 2009 Volvo V50 1.6D DRIVe SE Past: 2004 Volvo S40 T5 SE

Jun 12th, 2019, 16:42	#6
Welton Premier Member Last Online: Sep 14th, 2021 17:03 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Market Harborough	In next week's lesson we learn about the new Audi Badges: 30 TSFi 35 TSFi etc etc __________________ 2005 S40 T5 SE - Manual. Bilstein B4's. (For Sale) 2010 Citroen C4 1.6 HDi (bizarre Gearbox model). 2010 Renault Twingo (refreshingly simple) 2018 Infiniti Q30 1.6T Business Executive (what's this button do?)

Jun 12th, 2019, 18:17	#8
iainmd Member Last Online: Today 09:24 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Fife View Photos By: iainmd	Stop the bus.... here it is converted from kW! 30 = 109-122bhp 35 = 148-161bhp 40 = 168-201bhp 45 = 227-248bhp 50 = 282-308bhp 55 = 245-329bhp 60 = 429-456bhp 70 = 536bhp+ What were Audi on? It's pretty confusing TBH. __________________ Present: 2009 Volvo V50 1.6D DRIVe SE Past: 2004 Volvo S40 T5 SE

Jun 13th, 2019, 07:36	#9
Welton Premier Member Last Online: Sep 14th, 2021 17:03 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Market Harborough	Well there you have it! thanks. Imagine how that system will get abused in the future with second hand cars and owners swapping numbers about to make the car appear more powerful. __________________ 2005 S40 T5 SE - Manual. Bilstein B4's. (For Sale) 2010 Citroen C4 1.6 HDi (bizarre Gearbox model). 2010 Renault Twingo (refreshingly simple) 2018 Infiniti Q30 1.6T Business Executive (what's this button do?)

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