When is AWD not AWD ?

Sunstoner · Dec 11th, 2015, 13:47

Hi

I've recently ordered a D4 R-Design Lux Nav AWD (pickup in Jan ) having made the move from an X1 with the Xdrive system.

Having 2 young'us the X1 just wasn't upto the task as it was/is on the small/narrow side. Owned an XC70 2.4 Driv-e before that which was a great family motor hence our shift back to Volvo.

My better half prefers the security offered by a 4wd system hence our choice above.

I like the fact that the BM's system was permanent 4wd, with a 60/40 split. I noticed and needed it's help over the 3.5yrs of ownership. I've read a couple of stories online where Volvo owners have got stuck in snowy car parks mostly due to the AWD not doing it job and sending power to the rears.

I'm now wondering if I've made the right choice with this AWD system. How have you all found the AWD system to be? Worth it weight?

Cheers

Steve

wimorrison · Dec 11th, 2015, 13:59

People get stuck in snow because they have the wrong tyres fitted not because of the AWD - the other thing is that people forget (or possibly don't know) to switch the ESC into Sport Mode in conditions such as you describe.

Nothing wrong with AWD, but as you observe it is not 4WD however it has never let me down in either this car or the last one.

GusGecko · Dec 11th, 2015, 15:23

It's kind of permanent... its always 95/5 (front/rear) with a maximum split of 50/50 (correct me if I'm wrong?)

Same Haldex clutch system as the vast majority of car manufacturers use for awd excluding the likes of suburu and land rover's . Its the same as what Audi use for quattro, vw 4motion, and whatever skoda, ford etc call theres.

There's loads of videos on youtube of this cars capabilities offroad (I especially enjoy those crazy Russian videos!!)

NigelDay · Dec 11th, 2015, 15:30

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Originally Posted by GusGecko

It's kind of permanent... its always 95/5 (front/rear) with a maximum split of 50/50 (correct me if I'm wrong?)

Same Haldex clutch system as the vast majority of car manufacturers use for awd excluding the likes of suburu and land rover's . Its the same as what Audi use for quattro, vw 4motion, and whatever skoda, ford etc call theres.

There's loads of videos on youtube of this cars capabilities offroad (I especially enjoy those crazy Russian videos!!)

Not all Audis are Haldex. The transverse engines use Haldex, but the longitudinal engines use Torsen. So, the A3/Q3 uses Haldex, but the A4/Q5 and above use Torsen. As for the difference, you can Google it or others will no doubt respond !

Sunstoner · Dec 11th, 2015, 15:42

Thanks for your replies!

So I've simply 'nowt' to worry about!

)

Im sure theres no way would Volvo be implementing a system that was inferior in most conditions.

Cant wait to get my new toy now! A nice 40th prezzie for me!

Sunstoner · Dec 11th, 2015, 15:44

[QUOTE=GusGecko;2025175

There's loads of videos on youtube of this cars capabilities offroad (I especially enjoy those crazy Russian videos!!)[/QUOTE]

I WILL be checking these out! thanks for that!

GusGecko · Dec 11th, 2015, 16:14

Haha..

This one's a good one:

http://youtu.be/AUWg1U9kjPg

Warkman · Dec 11th, 2015, 17:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by GusGecko

It's kind of permanent... its always 95/5 (front/rear) with a maximum split of 50/50 (correct me if I'm wrong?)

Same Haldex clutch system as the vast majority of car manufacturers use for awd excluding the likes of suburu and land rover's . Its the same as what Audi use for quattro, vw 4motion, and whatever skoda, ford etc call theres.

There's loads of videos on youtube of this cars capabilities offroad (I especially enjoy those crazy Russian videos!!)

No, slightly wrong it IS the same Haldex 4 system as used in the Evoque and Discovery Sport and Freelander.

Kev78 · Dec 11th, 2015, 21:47

The new X1 looks a lot better than the last one. Just seen the advert.

If you look on YouTube the xc60 outperforms X3's and Q5's in off road tests and obstacle courses.

I wouldn't worry.

Sunstoner · Dec 12th, 2015, 09:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by GusGecko

Haha..

This one's a good one:

http://youtu.be/AUWg1U9kjPg

Hahaa Brilliant!

Its great seeing cars like the XC60 being waded thr mud! like me when I was 6 with my wellies on!

I dont think Id have the balls to do it to my own. *wimp*

Dec 11th, 2015, 13:47	#1
Sunstoner Junior Member Last Online: Jan 6th, 2021 16:40 Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Retford	When is AWD not AWD ? Hi I've recently ordered a D4 R-Design Lux Nav AWD (pickup in Jan ) having made the move from an X1 with the Xdrive system. Having 2 young'us the X1 just wasn't upto the task as it was/is on the small/narrow side. Owned an XC70 2.4 Driv-e before that which was a great family motor hence our shift back to Volvo. My better half prefers the security offered by a 4wd system hence our choice above. I like the fact that the BM's system was permanent 4wd, with a 60/40 split. I noticed and needed it's help over the 3.5yrs of ownership. I've read a couple of stories online where Volvo owners have got stuck in snowy car parks mostly due to the AWD not doing it job and sending power to the rears. I'm now wondering if I've made the right choice with this AWD system. How have you all found the AWD system to be? Worth it weight? Cheers Steve

Dec 11th, 2015, 13:59	#2
wimorrison Grumpy Old Sod Last Online: Dec 14th, 2021 15:39 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hampshire, nee Scotland	People get stuck in snow because they have the wrong tyres fitted not because of the AWD - the other thing is that people forget (or possibly don't know) to switch the ESC into Sport Mode in conditions such as you describe. Nothing wrong with AWD, but as you observe it is not 4WD however it has never let me down in either this car or the last one. __________________ Currently XC60 Previously XC60, V70, S40, ... Last edited by wimorrison; Dec 11th, 2015 at 14:02.

Dec 11th, 2015, 15:23	#3
GusGecko from C30 to XC60 Last Online: Aug 28th, 2023 07:55 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Braintree, Essex	It's kind of permanent... its always 95/5 (front/rear) with a maximum split of 50/50 (correct me if I'm wrong?) Same Haldex clutch system as the vast majority of car manufacturers use for awd excluding the likes of suburu and land rover's . Its the same as what Audi use for quattro, vw 4motion, and whatever skoda, ford etc call theres. There's loads of videos on youtube of this cars capabilities offroad (I especially enjoy those crazy Russian videos!!) __________________ XC60 D5 SE LUX NAV with toys 'n' stuff

Dec 11th, 2015, 16:14	#7
GusGecko from C30 to XC60 Last Online: Aug 28th, 2023 07:55 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Braintree, Essex	Haha.. This one's a good one: http://youtu.be/AUWg1U9kjPg __________________ XC60 D5 SE LUX NAV with toys 'n' stuff

Dec 11th, 2015, 15:42	#5
Sunstoner Junior Member Last Online: Jan 6th, 2021 16:40 Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Retford	Thanks for your replies! So I've simply 'nowt' to worry about! ) Im sure theres no way would Volvo be implementing a system that was inferior in most conditions. Cant wait to get my new toy now! A nice 40th prezzie for me!

Dec 11th, 2015, 15:44	#6
Sunstoner Junior Member Last Online: Jan 6th, 2021 16:40 Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Retford	[QUOTE=GusGecko;2025175 There's loads of videos on youtube of this cars capabilities offroad (I especially enjoy those crazy Russian videos!!)[/QUOTE] I WILL be checking these out! thanks for that!

Dec 11th, 2015, 21:47	#9
Kev78 Senior Member Last Online: Sep 27th, 2017 14:04 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Manchester	The new X1 looks a lot better than the last one. Just seen the advert. If you look on YouTube the xc60 outperforms X3's and Q5's in off road tests and obstacle courses. I wouldn't worry.

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