Just scoping out my next '60

TobyAnscombe · Oct 13th, 2019, 11:35

Hi All,

Its that time again - time for my 4th XC60 as the lease is up on the current one.

All 3 previous have been lease/PCP, all bar the last one have been R-Design D5's with the current one being a R-Design D4 with Polestar. All have been diesels..

Any thoughts on the B/D split? Petrol vs Diesels? I know that we will probably pick the Momentum Pro up as it seems to have the best "bang per buck" in terms of features vs price.

Cant say that I'm fussed by the Active Chassis with the R-Design Pro and the delta between the Momentum Pro and R-Design doesn't seem to be worth the cash and there are several things in the Momentum Pro that I would actively want to get (active lights, power driver seat, keyless etc)

Anyone just bought or wished that they had bought that wants to pass on a real-world view?

I've reached out to the usual places (CarWow, DTD) etc - anywhere else to look?

xsaab · Oct 13th, 2019, 12:45

I had an Inscription XC60 and I found the wallowing ride unacceptable hence my rapid (and expensive) swap to the R-Design Pro which so far is a far nicer ride.

PhilipT5 · Oct 13th, 2019, 13:30

I've had my R-Design T5 for 3 weeks now and loving it, still even finding new things most times I head out in it.

I didn't spec too much extra, but I would say the HUD is amazing (I know that's a marmite option!) and the HK sound system is brilliant too.

The Android Auto was probably not a necessity as the Sensus Nav seems great so far, plus you get the directions in the HUD and driver display.

I think the only option I may regret not going for is the pilot assist, used it other cars and is very good to take a lot of the strain away.
I know lots talk about the 360 camera, but having been in several multi storey car parks now, the standard sensors and rear camera are fine for me.

TobyAnscombe · Oct 13th, 2019, 13:41

Interesting - Is the Momentum that much softer in terms of ride? Never tried one, just assumed that the R-Design is cosmetic rather than actual... might have to actually go to my dealer (who, TBH has done nothing for the last 3 cars so that's probably worth a change given how competitive the market is these days).

I'm hoping for Apple CarPlay (fanboy) and seen it working in a VW - looks excellent for what I would need it for.

HUD vs Heated screen - I'm slightly coming down on the heated screen but that could just be the time of year..

Isn't the auto-park stuff a bit gimmicky? I mean, how often do you use it (assuming its parallel rather than reverse into a space).

The thing that I really missed (and didn't think that I would) on the current car is the auto-lights on full beam (I live in the sticks) and auto-cruise (for example, our holiday this year was 2,500Miles from Essex to Venice and back via Germany. It was really noticeable and the inability for (obviously others...) to keep to a constant speed just meant constant up/down shifts on the steering wheel rather than being relaxed. Also this was my first auto so would have had the ability in a queue to just not worry about stuff...

Sandj · Oct 13th, 2019, 14:36

We like the 360 camera, wouldn't be without it, but I take my mother to frequent hospital appointments and have to navigate the car park. Love apple car play and Blis. I think now to get blis you have to have pilot assist which I wasn't fussed about however I'd have it to get Blis.

PhilipT5 · Oct 13th, 2019, 16:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandj

We like the 360 camera, wouldn't be without it, but I take my mother to frequent hospital appointments and have to navigate the car park. Love apple car play and Blis. I think now to get blis you have to have pilot assist which I wasn't fussed about however I'd have it to get Blis.

Totally forgot about BLIS, another great option, think it was £500.

The R-Design comes with the auto high beam assistant too as standard, very useful and you can change the tolerance on it to.

techwatcher · Oct 13th, 2019, 18:25

Some thoughts:

1. CarPlay on XC60 does not utilise the whole screen in the Volvo implementation - it uses the bottom half of the screen only.
2. I have the heated screen - works well but only useful for a few months a year.
3. The auto-park stuff is a great party trick - BTW it WILL reverse into a space as well as parallel park, but it's just a bit too slow and a bit of a faff. Not used it at all on my latest XC60.
4. You can get auto-lights on full beam and adaptive cruise control.

Best feature? Undoubtedly the 360 degree camera. It's a large car and it lets you know where the four corners are to a good degree of accuracy. I wouldn't be without it.

xsaab · Oct 13th, 2019, 18:54

Re R Design Pro vs Inscription ride

We have now used the R Design on a road that caused Inscription passengers to be very unhappy, my wife was most impressed with the R Design Pro so the very extravagant upgrade has now been fully justified.

As for headup display - now getting used to it - very good. I hope that I do not have many cold mornings to start driving in. However as I have remote start I can have the car warming up while I prepare to drive.

Wizzpop · Oct 13th, 2019, 20:34

Good to hear. Guess Cambridge Garage is your dealer.
btw is it really a 2010 XC60?

xsaab · Oct 13th, 2019, 20:37

Yes Cambridge Garage and I have an error in my sig - so will change that to 2020 XC60

Oct 13th, 2019, 11:35	#1
TobyAnscombe Junior Member Last Online: Apr 3rd, 2024 08:56 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Weald	Just scoping out my next '60 Hi All, Its that time again - time for my 4th XC60 as the lease is up on the current one. All 3 previous have been lease/PCP, all bar the last one have been R-Design D5's with the current one being a R-Design D4 with Polestar. All have been diesels.. Any thoughts on the B/D split? Petrol vs Diesels? I know that we will probably pick the Momentum Pro up as it seems to have the best "bang per buck" in terms of features vs price. Cant say that I'm fussed by the Active Chassis with the R-Design Pro and the delta between the Momentum Pro and R-Design doesn't seem to be worth the cash and there are several things in the Momentum Pro that I would actively want to get (active lights, power driver seat, keyless etc) Anyone just bought or wished that they had bought that wants to pass on a real-world view? I've reached out to the usual places (CarWow, DTD) etc - anywhere else to look?

Oct 13th, 2019, 12:45	#2
xsaab Master Member Last Online: Oct 18th, 2022 15:30 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Waterlooville	I had an Inscription XC60 and I found the wallowing ride unacceptable hence my rapid (and expensive) swap to the R-Design Pro which so far is a far nicer ride. __________________ from October 2019 a 2020 XC60 R Design Pro B5 from May 2019 to October a 2019 XC60 D4 AWD Inscription with even more bits 2015 to 2019 a 2014 XC60 D5 RDesign, Polestar, lots of cameras and sensors

Oct 13th, 2019, 13:30	#3
PhilipT5 Junior Member Last Online: Yesterday 19:44 Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Brighton	I've had my R-Design T5 for 3 weeks now and loving it, still even finding new things most times I head out in it. I didn't spec too much extra, but I would say the HUD is amazing (I know that's a marmite option!) and the HK sound system is brilliant too. The Android Auto was probably not a necessity as the Sensus Nav seems great so far, plus you get the directions in the HUD and driver display. I think the only option I may regret not going for is the pilot assist, used it other cars and is very good to take a lot of the strain away. I know lots talk about the 360 camera, but having been in several multi storey car parks now, the standard sensors and rear camera are fine for me. __________________ XC60 T5 R-Design MY20, Fusion Red

Oct 13th, 2019, 18:25	#7
techwatcher Master Member Last Online: Yesterday 22:16 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Greater Manchester	Some thoughts: 1. CarPlay on XC60 does not utilise the whole screen in the Volvo implementation - it uses the bottom half of the screen only. 2. I have the heated screen - works well but only useful for a few months a year. 3. The auto-park stuff is a great party trick - BTW it WILL reverse into a space as well as parallel park, but it's just a bit too slow and a bit of a faff. Not used it at all on my latest XC60. 4. You can get auto-lights on full beam and adaptive cruise control. Best feature? Undoubtedly the 360 degree camera. It's a large car and it lets you know where the four corners are to a good degree of accuracy. I wouldn't be without it. __________________ XC60 B5 Diesel MY2021

Oct 13th, 2019, 18:54	#8
xsaab Master Member Last Online: Oct 18th, 2022 15:30 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Waterlooville	Re R Design Pro vs Inscription ride We have now used the R Design on a road that caused Inscription passengers to be very unhappy, my wife was most impressed with the R Design Pro so the very extravagant upgrade has now been fully justified. As for headup display - now getting used to it - very good. I hope that I do not have many cold mornings to start driving in. However as I have remote start I can have the car warming up while I prepare to drive. __________________ from October 2019 a 2020 XC60 R Design Pro B5 from May 2019 to October a 2019 XC60 D4 AWD Inscription with even more bits 2015 to 2019 a 2014 XC60 D5 RDesign, Polestar, lots of cameras and sensors

Oct 13th, 2019, 13:41	#4
TobyAnscombe Junior Member Last Online: Apr 3rd, 2024 08:56 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Weald	Interesting - Is the Momentum that much softer in terms of ride? Never tried one, just assumed that the R-Design is cosmetic rather than actual... might have to actually go to my dealer (who, TBH has done nothing for the last 3 cars so that's probably worth a change given how competitive the market is these days). I'm hoping for Apple CarPlay (fanboy) and seen it working in a VW - looks excellent for what I would need it for. HUD vs Heated screen - I'm slightly coming down on the heated screen but that could just be the time of year.. Isn't the auto-park stuff a bit gimmicky? I mean, how often do you use it (assuming its parallel rather than reverse into a space). The thing that I really missed (and didn't think that I would) on the current car is the auto-lights on full beam (I live in the sticks) and auto-cruise (for example, our holiday this year was 2,500Miles from Essex to Venice and back via Germany. It was really noticeable and the inability for (obviously others...) to keep to a constant speed just meant constant up/down shifts on the steering wheel rather than being relaxed. Also this was my first auto so would have had the ability in a queue to just not worry about stuff...

Oct 13th, 2019, 14:36	#5
Sandj New Member Last Online: Jul 25th, 2021 18:43 Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: London	We like the 360 camera, wouldn't be without it, but I take my mother to frequent hospital appointments and have to navigate the car park. Love apple car play and Blis. I think now to get blis you have to have pilot assist which I wasn't fussed about however I'd have it to get Blis.

Oct 13th, 2019, 20:34	#9
Wizzpop Master Member Last Online: Yesterday 15:13 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Portsmouth	Good to hear. Guess Cambridge Garage is your dealer. btw is it really a 2010 XC60? __________________ 2019 V60 Momentum Pro T5 Denim Blue, blond interior, electric deployed towbar. 1957 Morgan Plus 4

Oct 13th, 2019, 20:37	#10
xsaab Master Member Last Online: Oct 18th, 2022 15:30 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Waterlooville	Yes Cambridge Garage and I have an error in my sig - so will change that to 2020 XC60 __________________ from October 2019 a 2020 XC60 R Design Pro B5 from May 2019 to October a 2019 XC60 D4 AWD Inscription with even more bits 2015 to 2019 a 2014 XC60 D5 RDesign, Polestar, lots of cameras and sensors

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