Help with a V50 please

[5cilinder]

Probable beginning of faultfinding is already given ;-)
But hey if mummys boy cant even solve it himself dont be suprised if this keeps going around in circles

[kate66]

Originally Posted by IainG

Hi



When you say it doesn't start do you mean it is turning over but won't fire and run or do you mean it is not actually turning over at all?

Iain

It’s turning over then after a few tries it just dies and there is nothing at all

[kate66]

Originally Posted by 5cilinder

Probable beginning of faultfinding is already given ;-)
But hey if mummys boy cant even solve it himself dont be suprised if this keeps going around in circles

Rude

But whilst he was doing 12hr shifts I thought I would seek advice …..nothing wrong in helping my son or anyone….it’s called kindness

[IainG]

Hi Kate

Originally Posted by kate66

It’s turning over then after a few tries it just dies and there is nothing at all

From previous comments and your last description.
As it is a new battery already.
You say it is better with a jump start.
Thoughts
the new battery is not receiving a good charge from the alternator so is now only partially charged
Test the alternator/ battery voltages with engine stopped and then with it running.
Test the voltage on the starter motor whilst trying to start. This will help identify a wiring issue.
Measure the volt drop between the battery and starter whilst trying to start. That can highlight a wiring issue.
Needs more fault finding as an alternator is about £150 and a starter is about £100 (+ fitting)
There can also be fuel issues. If I park my car "nose up" overnight it always takes longer to start in the morning so out of habit I park on the level or "nose down" if I have the option.(there is no standard fuel lift pump on these so any minor air leaks between the fuel tank and engine will let the fuel run back and it can then be a problem to start.)
I.e. If there is a fuel issue, it could take longer to start therefore flattening the battery.
Think you need to test the battery voltage with the car stopped and also with it running to see if the battery is charging and holding charge properly first.
Test the battery voltage before trying to start. Test whilst starting and then test whilst running. Those readings posted here might possibly give some pointers. Or a competent auto electrician would be able to test.


Iain

[5cilinder]

Originally Posted by kate66

Rude

But whilst he was doing 12hr shifts I thought I would seek advice …..nothing wrong in helping my son or anyone….it’s called kindness

Ignoring good advice is "rude" or stuborn/ignorance


Oh and the addition of Ian of a faulty alternator is also a good possibility
But if son has paid attention he already had to have had low voltage warnings during driving and/or the battery led lighting up

[kate66]

Originally Posted by 5cilinder

Ignoring good advice is "rude" or stuborn/ignorance


Oh and the addition of Ian of a faulty alternator is also a good possibility
But if son has paid attention he already had to have had low voltage warnings during driving and/or the battery led lighting up

And where have I ignored any advice ??

I am grateful for what Iain has said although I have to admit we know nothing about cars hence why I joined forum. I had asked people I know but most were saying battery that’s why we went and got it checked (no warning lights were on or had been ….only thing on is fill washer bottle which was done.

It is booked in with a Volvo specialist so hopefully get it sorted Tuesday

[5cilinder]

Originally Posted by kate66

And where have I ignored any advice ??

I am grateful for what Iain has said although I have to admit we know nothing about cars hence why I joined forum. I had asked people I know but most were saying battery that’s why we went and got it checked (no warning lights were on or had been ….only thing on is fill washer bottle which was done.

It is booked in with a Volvo specialist so hopefully get it sorted Tuesday

I meant the cleaning of the leads and startermotor connections doesnt harm anyway

[kate66]

Originally Posted by IainG

Hi Kate




From previous comments and your last description.
As it is a new battery already.
You say it is better with a jump start.
Thoughts
the new battery is not receiving a good charge from the alternator so is now only partially charged
Test the alternator/ battery voltages with engine stopped and then with it running.
Test the voltage on the starter motor whilst trying to start. This will help identify a wiring issue.
Measure the volt drop between the battery and starter whilst trying to start. That can highlight a wiring issue.
Needs more fault finding as an alternator is about £150 and a starter is about £100 (+ fitting)
There can also be fuel issues. If I park my car "nose up" overnight it always takes longer to start in the morning so out of habit I park on the level or "nose down" if I have the option.(there is no standard fuel lift pump on these so any minor air leaks between the fuel tank and engine will let the fuel run back and it can then be a problem to start.)
I.e. If there is a fuel issue, it could take longer to start therefore flattening the battery.
Think you need to test the battery voltage with the car stopped and also with it running to see if the battery is charging and holding charge properly first.
Test the battery voltage before trying to start. Test whilst starting and then test whilst running. Those readings posted here might possibly give some pointers. Or a competent auto electrician would be able to test.


Iain

Hi

Just a quick update new starter motor needed so all good to go .

Thanks for your help really appreciated

[IainG]

Hi Kate

Excellent news
Relatively cheap fix and thanks for letting everyone know the outcome. Just changed my starter again last month. (2 starters in 15 years)

We are not all grumpy on here!!

Originally Posted by kate66

Hi

Just a quick update new starter motor needed so all good to go .

Thanks for your help really appreciated

Iain

[5cilinder]

Originally Posted by IainG

Hi Kate

E
We are not all grumpy on here!!




Iain

No, just a bunch of cucks
Maybe just cleaning the leads could have prevented a garage to sell an unneeded starter.
We never know dont we