PV Steering bar terminal touching sway bar

[adarvasi]

Good evening to all,

Today I installed the steering wheel on my 1962 PV544 under restoration, when testing the set up discovered that I could turn the steering wheel about ¾ of a turn towards the right and about 2 + turns towards the left. After a cursory examination discovered that the terminal on the right side steering bar was touching the IPD sway bar.
The distance between the terminal and the sway bar on the left side (steering box) is a little over an inch and on the left side is less than ½ inch when wheels are centered.
The sway bar was installed in the car before the restoration, there were no steering issues; the assembly of the front end was done per the manual.
I attach three pictures, one showing the distance between the terminal and the sway bar on the left, another on the right (wheels centered) and the last one the terminal touching the sway bar.
Your ideas, suggestions, etc are not only required, but they will make my day
Thank you

[Ron Kwas]

Adarvasi;

That certainly does not look right...on a 122 the Idler Arm and Streering Arm coming from Steering box are lower and Steeting linkage clears the ASB in all position...I would certainly expect your 544 suspension to be similar in this respect...maybe a 544 owner can take and post some pictures, but something is clearly not right here...sorry I can't help with further specifics...

Good Hunting!

[adarvasi]

Originally Posted by Ron Kwas

Adarvasi;

That certainly does not look right...on a 122 the Idler Arm and Streering Arm coming from Steering box are lower and Steeting linkage clears the ASB in all position...I would certainly expect your 544 suspension to be similar in this respect...maybe a 544 owner can take and post some pictures, but something is clearly not right here...sorry I can't help with further specifics...

Good Hunting!

Thank you Ron, sincerely I am at a loss to understand. Most likely we assembled something wrong, but I don't seem to find it!

[old fart]

I'll have a look under mine in the morning. Something's got to be different. Regards, Andy.

[adarvasi]

Thanks a lot Andy

[Derek UK]

I've not been able to find anything specific to cure your problem. I did watch this video and that does give some views of the suspension and a bit of the arms near the end. Rob's comments about ARB's are interesting.
You might have already found the answers but I suspect one or both of the arms have been fitted upside down. That may not be possible so please ignore if that is the case.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6ngPp44sAw
I made a comment on BlueOspreys thread about sockets and said that hardware was unlikely to be metric. Rob says that they are and he's the expert!

[blueosprey90]

I have no experience, so consider this as a useless internet opinion.

Either the frame to which the sway bar is mounted is bent, or the steering arms are bent.

Is this interference with weight on the front suspension? or jacked up with no weight? If the latter, lower the car and reexamine.

I would cut the threaded "bolt" flush with the nylock nut. Those extra threads aren't doing anything.

[adarvasi]

Thank you Derek, I watched the video and took some pictures and will study my set up comparing it with the pictures tomorrow. Will also check the possibility of something being inverted.
I also wrote to Rob to have his opinion.
Thanks again. Will repirt on the findings when resolved

[adarvasi]

Originally Posted by blueosprey90

I have no experience, so consider this as a useless internet opinion.

Either the frame to which the sway bar is mounted is bent, or the steering arms are bent.

Is this interference with weight on the front suspension? or jacked up with no weight? If the latter, lower the car and reexamine.

I would cut the threaded "bolt" flush with the nylock nut. Those extra threads aren't doing anything.

Blueosprey, no opinion is useless!
The frame is not bent, before we started the restoration the problem did not exist.
If I don’t find the problem, I will lower the car and check it, however, if the difference between both sides exist without weight, I tend to believe that will remain with weight.
Cutting the thread seems to me to eliminate the symptom without finding the sickness.
Thank you for your comments, which I really appreciate

[Army]

If you are absolutely sure nothing has changed and all was well before you took it to bits...

...I would check

1) That the pitman arm on the steering box is not in the wrong position. (As in splines on shaft)
2) Nothing has been installed upside down
3) Nothing has been put back on backwards / wrong way round

Sometimes it is easy to put things on upside down or backwards

If you have changed steering boxes or idler arms then you need to make sure you've got the correct part numbers and measure the lengths.

On the whole I would expect the heights of the idler arm and the pitman arm to be the same. Most cars have a specification for this in the work shop manual (sorry can't find my PV book at the moment - so I can't look it up for you)