460 swap to vr6 - Page 3

doingitsideways · Nov 29th, 2015, 11:18

Hmm...

I'm probably going to regret getting involved here, but...

The standard turbo setup was developed by Porsche and developed 170-180bhp.
Volvo thought this was too exciting, so detuned them to 120bhp.
The "Richmod" or the later "Roboumod" that Anadinolin speaks of are ecu conversions to essentially bring power back to the originally developed level of 170-ish bhp.
This is done via a modification to the boost/ignition ecu. The fuel ecu is quite stupid and can't be modified. Also mapping is out of the question.

The standard ecu WILL NOT LET YOU BOOST BEYOND 14PSI.
I write that in capitals, as people don't seem to listen when I tell them.

To get more than this figure, you will need:
A bigger turbo, as the standard T2 is tiny and already past it's efficiency range at 14psi.
Bigger injectors, something like 850 oranges maybe.
Better front mount intercooler and custom pipework.
VAG 710 recirc valves, the standard ones usually die once boost is raised to 14psi with either of the mods above.
Then, either some sort of piggyback ecu, or a derestricted ecu from EFI-parts.co.uk.

These mods would easily see 200bhp, WHEN SET UP PROPERLY.
Derestricted ecus are great, but dangerous if you don't know what you're doing, as all safety parameters have been removed.

If you do get 200bhp, great.
Next, start a countdown for how long your gearbox takes to dump it's guts all over the road.

Or, just buy an S40 T4. 200bhp out of the box.

glasgowjim · Nov 29th, 2015, 14:45

can you fit an S40 T4 into a 480 ?

Hmmmm

doingitsideways · Nov 29th, 2015, 19:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by glasgowjim

can you fit an S40 T4 into a 480 ?

Hmmmm

The jury's still out on that one, Jim!

I was more suggesting this fella just buy an S40 to run.

Ali valvo · Dec 6th, 2015, 17:35

thanx all
any one know the total Wight of the 460 gl 1991 .???

doingitsideways · Dec 7th, 2015, 01:02

About 1050kg or so.

Less with rust.

Anadinolin · Dec 7th, 2015, 18:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by doingitsideways

About 1050kg or so.

Less with rust.

Saves you stripping out your seats lol

doingitsideways · Dec 7th, 2015, 22:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anadinolin

Saves you stripping out your seats lol

Yup.
If you let them rust for long enough, the seats fall through the floor and save you a job!

IwoM · Dec 16th, 2015, 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by glasgowjim

can you fit an S40 T4 into a 480 ?

Hmmmm

Yep, done in Poland long time ago. Was for sale for a very long time, now probably ruined.

http://www.volvo-480-europe.org/foru...hp?f=3&t=15799

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali valvo

thanx
who now max power i can get from
valvo 460 1.7 turbo
can i get 200 hp or not

220+BHP is achievable without any problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97fnXgdoHc0

doingitsideways · Dec 16th, 2015, 22:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by IwoM

Yep, done in Poland long time ago. Was for sale for a very long time, now probably ruined.

http://www.volvo-480-europe.org/foru...hp?f=3&t=15799

Lol,

Of all people, Jim is aware of that thread.
He's the moderator of the 480 forum!

Ali valvo · Dec 26th, 2015, 14:24

any one have the service manual
i want free link

Nov 29th, 2015, 11:18	#21
doingitsideways The Daddy Last Online: Feb 29th, 2024 15:07 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Manchester	Hmm... I'm probably going to regret getting involved here, but... The standard turbo setup was developed by Porsche and developed 170-180bhp. Volvo thought this was too exciting, so detuned them to 120bhp. The "Richmod" or the later "Roboumod" that Anadinolin speaks of are ecu conversions to essentially bring power back to the originally developed level of 170-ish bhp. This is done via a modification to the boost/ignition ecu. The fuel ecu is quite stupid and can't be modified. Also mapping is out of the question. The standard ecu WILL NOT LET YOU BOOST BEYOND 14PSI. I write that in capitals, as people don't seem to listen when I tell them. To get more than this figure, you will need: A bigger turbo, as the standard T2 is tiny and already past it's efficiency range at 14psi. Bigger injectors, something like 850 oranges maybe. Better front mount intercooler and custom pipework. VAG 710 recirc valves, the standard ones usually die once boost is raised to 14psi with either of the mods above. Then, either some sort of piggyback ecu, or a derestricted ecu from EFI-parts.co.uk. These mods would easily see 200bhp, WHEN SET UP PROPERLY. Derestricted ecus are great, but dangerous if you don't know what you're doing, as all safety parameters have been removed. If you do get 200bhp, great. Next, start a countdown for how long your gearbox takes to dump it's guts all over the road. Or, just buy an S40 T4. 200bhp out of the box. __________________ XC90 V8 Exec, C70 2.4T Convertible, S70 T5 CD, 850 TDI, 2 x Escort vans and a 2.8i Capri. Clearout has begun, but must continue!

Dec 7th, 2015, 01:02	#25
doingitsideways The Daddy Last Online: Feb 29th, 2024 15:07 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Manchester	About 1050kg or so. Less with rust. __________________ XC90 V8 Exec, C70 2.4T Convertible, S70 T5 CD, 850 TDI, 2 x Escort vans and a 2.8i Capri. Clearout has begun, but must continue!

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