AWD Transmission: - Rich

4Rich · Dec 21st, 2015, 18:00

I am new to volvo, and to automatics, I have recently purchased a XC70 D Ocean Race, 2.4 auto. 2005 reg. It has a clunking noise with jerking when driving in slow traffic or at low speeds under 10 mph, approaching traffic lights etc and pulling away. It drives fine once under speed. I asked for a transmission oil change at a recent local service and was told there was no drainage outlet and was referred to a specialist company. Can anyone give some advice - I fear a big bill!
I want to keep the car if I can sort out this problem
Rich

100K+ · Dec 21st, 2015, 18:15

Lots of info on here about changing transmission fluid. There is no drain as such you need to suck it out with a vacuum pump. There is a clever way to remove more fluid than what you can "uncleverly" remove, so you need to carry out the operation fewer times.( each time you do the job you improve the quality of the fluid) IIRC good quality fluid is a cherry red (my Volvos are manual's)
If you are happy with spanners in your hands I believe its a relatively simple procedure.
There may be something else wrong with the transmission, but this would be a starting point and cures over half of this type of problem.

There are several "how to" on You tube similar to this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDAYHQJcGDI

Good luck.

Bob.

Tannaton · Dec 21st, 2015, 23:34

At 2005 I am assuming you have the 163 BHP engine and 5-speed auto (not 6) ?

These gearboxes can give trouble, but a good fluid change can sometimes work wonders. The problem is draining through the drain plug only removed about 40% of the fluid because of what gets trapped in the gearbox guts and torque converter. However there is another way which is much better - search the whole forum for the "Gibbons Method" (this box was used in pretty much all Volvo cars from early 2000's). Remember to use the correct JWS3309 fluid and if you have access to VIDA, get the gearbox adaptation reset.

4candles · Dec 22nd, 2015, 01:17

Check your lower gearbox cantilever steady... notorious for early wear on the small bush, but dead easy to replace and only £30.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLVO-LOWE...#ht_2355wt_994

blueacid · Dec 22nd, 2015, 11:05

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Originally Posted by 4Rich

I am new to volvo, and to automatics, I have recently purchased a XC70 D Ocean Race, 2.4 auto. 2005 reg. It has a clunking noise with jerking when driving in slow traffic or at low speeds under 10 mph, approaching traffic lights etc and pulling away. It drives fine once under speed. I asked for a transmission oil change at a recent local service and was told there was no drainage outlet and was referred to a specialist company. Can anyone give some advice - I fear a big bill!
I want to keep the car if I can sort out this problem
Rich

Howdy, how confident do you feel with spanners? If you've got the 5-speed auto there certainly is a drain plug! If it's the 6-speed then yeah it's a case of sucking oil from the dipstick and replacing.

If you're happy to change the engine oil on a car & have the 5 speed then I've got good news: the procedure is almost exactly the same! Can talk you through it if searching for "drain and fill jws3309" doesn't find similar threads

BarryCambs · Dec 22nd, 2015, 12:57

I'd check the inner cv joint on the OS driveshaft too, as this proved to be the problem on my 2WD

4Rich · Dec 24th, 2015, 13:45

100k
Bob. thanks for this - i'm ok with spanners but I've not been under a car for decades and have no real way of raising the car up enought to work properly. I'll look up the youtube first.
Rich

4Rich · Dec 24th, 2015, 13:50

Tannaton.
You may be right - how do you know if it is a 163 BHP and a 5 speed gear box (its easy to see on a manual!)
What is VIDA? and how can I tell and what is the adaptation? would I ask for in a service?
I'll check out the 'Gibbons method'.
All suggestions help build knowledge.
Thanks

4Rich · Dec 24th, 2015, 13:56

4candles.
Hi forkhandles. this showa me that I'm not only new to Volvo's, automatics, but mechanics too! What is the 'lower gearbox cantilever steady...' and '..the small bush..'
Good to hear it may only cost £30 but I need to read the webpages you included to gen up more.
thanks.
Rich

4Rich · Dec 24th, 2015, 14:02

Hi Blueacid.
As I mentioned to others online - not sure if it is a 5 or 6 speed (yet). when I find out I'll search for the drain plug or the dip stick. If procedures are easy and I know what to do i'll have a go - but need to find out exact details of the car first. I'll look up threads for 'drain and fill jws3309' and see if that helps and where that goes. But may get back to you to talk me through this - I retire in Feb so may have a bit more time to try this myself.
Rich

Dec 21st, 2015, 18:00	#1
4Rich 4Rich Last Online: Dec 24th, 2015 14:14 Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Scholar Green	Rich I am new to volvo, and to automatics, I have recently purchased a XC70 D Ocean Race, 2.4 auto. 2005 reg. It has a clunking noise with jerking when driving in slow traffic or at low speeds under 10 mph, approaching traffic lights etc and pulling away. It drives fine once under speed. I asked for a transmission oil change at a recent local service and was told there was no drainage outlet and was referred to a specialist company. Can anyone give some advice - I fear a big bill! I want to keep the car if I can sort out this problem Rich

Dec 21st, 2015, 23:34	#3
Tannaton Bungling Amateur Last Online: Today 09:24 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Beverley, East Yorks	At 2005 I am assuming you have the 163 BHP engine and 5-speed auto (not 6) ? These gearboxes can give trouble, but a good fluid change can sometimes work wonders. The problem is draining through the drain plug only removed about 40% of the fluid because of what gets trapped in the gearbox guts and torque converter. However there is another way which is much better - search the whole forum for the "Gibbons Method" (this box was used in pretty much all Volvo cars from early 2000's). Remember to use the correct JWS3309 fluid and if you have access to VIDA, get the gearbox adaptation reset. __________________ 2011 XC90 D5 Executive 2003 C70 T5 GT 2012 Ford Ranger XL SC 1977 Triumph Spitfire 1500 1976 Massey Ferguson 135

Dec 22nd, 2015, 01:17	#4
4candles I've Been Banned Last Online: Mar 19th, 2016 19:57 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Yondershire	Check your lower gearbox cantilever steady... notorious for early wear on the small bush, but dead easy to replace and only £30. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLVO-LOWE...#ht_2355wt_994 Last edited by 4candles; Dec 22nd, 2015 at 01:20.

Dec 21st, 2015, 18:15	#2
100K+ Premier Member Last Online: May 3rd, 2024 17:36 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Newcastle	Lots of info on here about changing transmission fluid. There is no drain as such you need to suck it out with a vacuum pump. There is a clever way to remove more fluid than what you can "uncleverly" remove, so you need to carry out the operation fewer times.( each time you do the job you improve the quality of the fluid) IIRC good quality fluid is a cherry red (my Volvos are manual's) If you are happy with spanners in your hands I believe its a relatively simple procedure. There may be something else wrong with the transmission, but this would be a starting point and cures over half of this type of problem. There are several "how to" on You tube similar to this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDAYHQJcGDI Good luck. Bob.

Dec 22nd, 2015, 12:57	#6
BarryCambs Senior Member Last Online: Aug 17th, 2023 14:13 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Cambridge	I'd check the inner cv joint on the OS driveshaft too, as this proved to be the problem on my 2WD

Dec 24th, 2015, 13:45	#7
4Rich 4Rich Last Online: Dec 24th, 2015 14:14 Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Scholar Green	100k Bob. thanks for this - i'm ok with spanners but I've not been under a car for decades and have no real way of raising the car up enought to work properly. I'll look up the youtube first. Rich

Dec 24th, 2015, 13:50	#8
4Rich 4Rich Last Online: Dec 24th, 2015 14:14 Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Scholar Green	Tannaton. You may be right - how do you know if it is a 163 BHP and a 5 speed gear box (its easy to see on a manual!) What is VIDA? and how can I tell and what is the adaptation? would I ask for in a service? I'll check out the 'Gibbons method'. All suggestions help build knowledge. Thanks

Dec 24th, 2015, 13:56	#9
4Rich 4Rich Last Online: Dec 24th, 2015 14:14 Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Scholar Green	4candles. Hi forkhandles. this showa me that I'm not only new to Volvo's, automatics, but mechanics too! What is the 'lower gearbox cantilever steady...' and '..the small bush..' Good to hear it may only cost £30 but I need to read the webpages you included to gen up more. thanks. Rich

Dec 24th, 2015, 14:02	#10
4Rich 4Rich Last Online: Dec 24th, 2015 14:14 Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Scholar Green	Hi Blueacid. As I mentioned to others online - not sure if it is a 5 or 6 speed (yet). when I find out I'll search for the drain plug or the dip stick. If procedures are easy and I know what to do i'll have a go - but need to find out exact details of the car first. I'll look up threads for 'drain and fill jws3309' and see if that helps and where that goes. But may get back to you to talk me through this - I retire in Feb so may have a bit more time to try this myself. Rich

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