V70 1.6d DRIVe se premium

[robw1]

Hi all was wondering if other Volvo drivers have come across this problem
When I drive at low speeds at about 2000 rpm I get a jerk/stutter and a quiet wind like sound ,I have no warning lights on dash ,only had car a couple of weeks ,took it back and they replaced the erg valve,was fine till engine was warm then the jerk/stutter was back ,seems worse in 2nd and 3rd gear
It's 2009 model with 120000 on clock ,seen a few similar post but not found any solutions,any help would be great

[Fulham]

A V70 1.6d on 120k Miles? How long do those engines last in a big car like the V70?

To be honest in your shoes the first thing I'd do buying a car in this condition is take it to Volvo for a proper engine health check and service. At 120k on such a small engine I imagine the miles you have left on it are limited to how careful you are with it.

I think I've seen a couple of V50's on Autotrader at 150k miles, but i'm not sure the PSA 1.6d is as solid as the D5. Does anyone here have any more knowledge on servicing this engine at this mileage?

[Rettopian]

I have an S80 1.6d and haven't experienced anything similar in 3 years/72000 miles. Could the low wind like noise be from the turbo/associated pipework? Perhaps something opening up as it expands & resulting in poor running?

Not sure that there are significant worries about the units longevity. Its not exactly massively stressed in terms of bhp/litre - about 72 as opposed to the 163 bhp D5 producing about 68. Also, I guess that people buying a 1.6 are not really likely to be thrashing the thing to within an inch of its life every day. I'm hoping to run mine past 200,000 before swapping. The guys at MRG Chippenham have expressed no concerns about engine life - just the usual stuff about keep on top of maintenance/Oil changes etc.

Good luck with getting matters resolved.

[Fulham]

Originally Posted by Rettopian

I have an S80 1.6d and haven't experienced anything similar in 3 years/72000 miles. Could the low wind like noise be from the turbo/associated pipework? Perhaps something opening up as it expands & resulting in poor running?

Not sure that there are significant worries about the units longevity. Its not exactly massively stressed in terms of bhp/litre - about 72 as opposed to the 163 bhp D5 producing about 68. Also, I guess that people buying a 1.6 are not really likely to be thrashing the thing to within an inch of its life every day. I'm hoping to run mine past 200,000 before swapping. The guys at MRG Chippenham have expressed no concerns about engine life - just the usual stuff about keep on top of maintenance/Oil changes etc.

Good luck with getting matters resolved.

Interesting to know, that would make an ex company high mileage V50 great value as when I was looking they were going for next to nothing post the 100k mark. Mum has a Citroen C4 with this engine and is suffering with lots of issues, none of them engine related though.

[dshbc]

Hi there

Previously I have had a 2009 V50 which had the 1.6D Drive engine which was then sold earlier this year.

I have bought it with 118k on the clock and ran it to almost 138k.

that said, the V50 had proper service history and I have had it serviced 3 times

During the 20k miles of ownership on top of the 118k I have had no trouble at all, only replaced consumables and suspension.

It's started every time and it felt fine for a V50, which is quite a bit lighter and more nimble, and this V70 P3 I have now has significantly smaller turning circle, which makes parking a bit harder

Please see below for my thoughts on the 1.6D:
http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=247620

[dshbc]

Just a quick update, I got my car serviced today at a Volvo specialist at Leicester and I have asked their views on the 1.6D DrivE by Ford

Like what my dealer said (who sold me the red Volvo V70 p3 2.0D-2008), their views on this DrivE engine is not great, they have said problems starts arising when the mileage gets high, so at 137k with my previous V50 i had been lucky that the 1.6D engine was giving no problems. They mentioned about the DPF starting to need replacing, other engine problems etc once the mileage gets past the 100k mark on the 1.6D by PSA.

As my current one is a Ford 2.0D, they said that engine (presumably in the S40/V50s) is very reliable and it is a good engine, generally more trouble free than the 1.6D.

The mechanic at the Volvo specialist said that if asked, they wouldnt recommend the 1.6D drive engine to their friends, and they reckon for the V50/S40 which is quite a bit lighter it's just fine, but its not really good for a heavy car like the S80 and V70 as it strains the engine a bit to pull the car around.

Having owned a car with both engines, I do recommend to avoid the 1.6D if possible because the stated fuel economy is barely achievable even when driven sensibly, which is why I'd rather pay a little bit more on fuel than having poor performance, which sometimes makes joining A roads with short run ups a hair raising event, and I have to do this everyday.

Plus if you come to selling the car with the 1.6D, the dealers may be less happy to take it in with high mileage since they might have heard stories about them already.

Or else, the VEA 2.0 D3 with 5 cyl 163 bhp is probably better too, the one used in the S60 and V60s.

[Timbotambo]

Originally Posted by dshbc

Just a quick update, I got my car serviced today at a Volvo specialist at Leicester and I have asked their views on the 1.6D DrivE by Ford

Like what my dealer said (who sold me the red Volvo V70 p3 2.0D-2008), their views on this DrivE engine is not great, they have said problems starts arising when the mileage gets high, so at 137k with my previous V50 i had been lucky that the 1.6D engine was giving no problems. They mentioned about the DPF starting to need replacing, other engine problems etc once the mileage gets past the 100k mark on the 1.6D by PSA.

As my current one is a Ford 2.0D, they said that engine (presumably in the S40/V50s) is very reliable and it is a good engine, generally more trouble free than the 1.6D.

The mechanic at the Volvo specialist said that if asked, they wouldnt recommend the 1.6D drive engine to their friends, and they reckon for the V50/S40 which is quite a bit lighter it's just fine, but its not really good for a heavy car like the S80 and V70 as it strains the engine a bit to pull the car around.

Having owned a car with both engines, I do recommend to avoid the 1.6D if possible because the stated fuel economy is barely achievable even when driven sensibly, which is why I'd rather pay a little bit more on fuel than having poor performance, which sometimes makes joining A roads with short run ups a hair raising event, and I have to do this everyday.

Plus if you come to selling the car with the 1.6D, the dealers may be less happy to take it in with high mileage since they might have heard stories about them already.

Or else, the VEA 2.0 D3 with 5 cyl 163 bhp is probably better too, the one used in the S60 and V60s.

Disagree, 133k on my 2012 1.6d and (touch wood) engine runs like a peach and has terrific pull, though pre-2012 facelift ones have much poorer performance and economy. I've had a D5 S60 in the past, 2.4 petrol 850 and 2.4D XC60. I test drove the 2.0D V70 and found the engine to be very marginal on performance but less refined.

[dshbc]

Yes I do agree on your view about the 2.0D, and some says on here which was the reason why this was discontinued couple years later.

I switched from the 1.6D DrivE 2009 V50 to the 2008 2.0D V70, and I was hoping for better performance too, but that seemed to be only a tiny bit quicker.

It seems the engines are kind of similar in refinement but I do feel that the clutch in the 2011 D3 S60 (5 cyl 163 bhp) is more interesting as it felt like it was stuck to my feet if you know what I mean

btw if you are going for one with DrivE engine please check the outside temperature reading is correct, as my previous V50 developed an outside temp sensor fault, which gives out false readings leading the car to think that it's -20 deg outside, which was obviously wrong and that lead to the car refusing to do the auto start/stop.

[Billggski]

The 1.6D seems to have a bad reputation based on the old twin cam 16v unit, which didn't respond well to poor maintenance by sludging up, the new single cam 8v has been very reliable.
It pulls well, although a bit rough at low revs.
I'm getting 58.9mpg in my D2 automatic, although motorway speed restrictions are helping.

[tt82]

Originally Posted by dshbc

Or else, the VEA 2.0 D3 with 5 cyl 163 bhp is probably better too, the one used in the S60 and V60s.

Just to clarify, the VEA are the new 4 cylinder engines, which doesn't include the 2.0 5cyl D3.