LHD Amazon Steering Box & Idler Wanted

[flatovercrest]

I need to convert my 131 into LHD to sort out a problem with Weber DCOE's fouling the steering column but need a LDH steering setup to achieve this.

Battery & pedal box also if anyone can help.

Thanks.

[agent_strangelove]

I've seen quite a few DCOE set ups on RHD cars. I can send you photos from a different computer tomorrow.

But I also have LHD steering boxes. Are you looking for the pre '68 one or the '68 and later one. I have a few wrecked cars about so I can cut out a battery box and pedal box if needed.

Let me know...
Chris

[flatovercrest]

Hi Chris

I used to rally a 121 20 odd years ago & favored a very torquey engine set up over loads of HP. The problem with this is that when booting it out of a slow corner the engine cant's over, fouling the steering column rendering the steering wheel useless until I lifted the throttle. Needless to say it caused a few moments.

I had the inlet manifold machined & used spacers under the engine mounts as much as possible but still had problems. The 131 I have is the later one with the larger center coupler which I could change to the earlier one (I assume) & reduce the size of the coupler but if you have some photo's that would be great.

Thanks, Bob

[Derek UK]

You could fit a torque stay between the engine and the inner wing, rubber mounts and a turnbuckle in the middle for adjustment. Better to try and find an inlet manifold pair that angles up a bit before flattening out. On some of these they also angle a bit forwards so you don't get a similar problem with the clutch MC. Won't be easy to find as this only affects RHD cars. On the plus side, as far as I know, DCOE's aren't legal for ralling so the demand for these will only be for road/race engines. Try and get "long" manifolds. You'll then have to take the BFH to the inner wing but even that can be done neatly.

[Steve121]

I had twin webers on mine for a while, the Ruddspeed manifolds are offset to clear the master cylinders and rise up a fair bit.. I'd keep an eye out for a set

[agent_strangelove]

Where to start with photos... The first photos are of a set of Volvo factory DOCE manifolds (but they would have left the factory with Solex DDH's). They are the longer ones and you can see they are sort of canted up.... I own this set up and it's available if the price is right. It will fit on an 122 but NOT a 1800 as shown. I have been told if you get right angle velostacks (off an Alfa) and only *slightly* dent the wheel well you can get it to fit in a 1800. I'll let someone else sledgehammer their 1800 to find out...

Other photos are of several RHD cars with DCOE's you will see different manifold and airfilter set ups. These photos are from George Minassian when I started asking questions about RHD and Webers.

I have a wrecked 1800 in my field that has an engine brace set up on it. I think it was the one IPD sold in the 80's. I will photograph that tonight.

[flatovercrest]

Hey guys.

Thanks for all your help. Certainly the inlet manifold is a lot longer & rises up considerably more than my one from what I can remember. That combined with a torque rod might be the answer. Must dig the engine out of the shed & remind myself properly. Back when I was rallying 20 years ago it was a lot harder to find this information & I just assumed that the inlet manifold I had was the only one available.

Thanks again.

[agent_strangelove]

Attached are photos of the brace that is on a wrecked 1800 I have down in the field. It's right at 12" from the center bolt hole (head bolt) to the surface that sits against the rubber bumper (engine mount).

If any of this stuff is of interest, let me know...

Chris

[asneddon]

On the photo rightdcoe.jpg, whats the horizontal black pipe that looks like its connected to the EFI injector ports? It looks like some sort of breather modification, but Im not sure it makes sense.

If you feed crank-case gasses into the inlet ports the carbs wont be able to adjust mixture to suit the air mass. Or am I missing something here?

Jsut being nosy.

[Quarterless]

Looks like a fuel rail to me as it has two pipes connected to it. One for feed, one for return. I can't see all the electrics for the injection but it looks like the carbs are being used like throttle bodies. It could be that the injection is just blocked off or the carbs could be used as a back up should the injection system go wrong.