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Oct 17th, 2020, 17:12 | #1 |
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Legendary odometer problems.
Evening all, we return to a case of yet another person suffering from odometer problems.
Diagnosis: Speedo works Replaced the gear that always breaks with a new one Still not counting I have read that it could be bad capacitors, or a cold solder joint that needs to be reflowed. I just wanted to confirm that I'm barking up the right tree here? Cheers |
Oct 17th, 2020, 17:13 | #2 |
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Oh- It is off a 1990 740GL and is the VDO cluster also
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Oct 17th, 2020, 19:28 | #3 |
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Clearly the signal is getting through from the rear diff sender as the speedo is working. Have you got abs but doubt it as it was optional extra?
Assume your speedo has the pin connector to the white back board/blue circuitry as it's 1990. Make sure those stupid pin connectors on the speedo unit are all slotted dead straight and not bent to the side - seems unlikely as speedo working. It's also unlikely that a VDO capacitor has gone down but could be a possibility. It's the big age related problem with Yazaki's. Did you double check and checked again that one of the ultra small cogs off the stripped drive gear wheel is not stuck somewhere in the drive mechanism. They have a habit of doing that. You could re-flow the internal pcb but, I would first take it to pieces again (!!!!) and make sure the stepping motor is ultra free to turn as well the drive cogs to the mechanical milo cogs. Make sure not to tighten the pcb down too tightly as pressure here can affect the stepping motor. I had experienced all these problems/niggles until by sheer chance I acquired a cluster with a VDO speedo made by VDO Australia at the end of VDO's then existence. After replacing the cog it's been a 'Bute'! Bob |
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Joking aside, yes, you're on the right track but 1990 would have been the very, very last of the VDOs, if it wasn't already Yazaki. Are you 100% sure you've identified it correctly? Some of the guides to identification are a bit ambiguous! Hopefully Bob (bob12) will be along at some point, he has an amazing knowledge of the clusters, especially the VDO ones so can give you a few more pointers than i can.
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Oct 17th, 2020, 22:00 | #5 |
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These are the gauges, I just assumed that you use the trip counter number separation to work out which it is... Not sure if it means anything, but on the speedo face there is the number 0020 at the very bottom right (not visible until the front fascia has been removed. bob- I will give wiggling things about a go, however if I can't work it out I may have to make a visit if that's ok as woking isn't too far! |
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Oct 17th, 2020, 22:24 | #6 |
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You assumed correctly on the identification.
http://www.volvotips.com/index.php/7...740-tripmeter/ The image and link to identifying. Once you've fixed it, a good way to avoid it failing again is to only reset the tripmeter when stationary, someone found resetting it while moving was a primary cause of breaking the gear wheels inside.
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Hi Dave-
I've already followed that guide and installed a new plastic gear, yet it still does not work- this is why I'm asking about further causes as I'm at a loss |
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Thanks to my internet being slow tonight, i hadn't seen Bobs erlier reply until a short while ago but basically check for pieces of the old broken gear, check the mechanism is free to run, that the reset button hasn't stuck and so on. It could be a duff cap in there but that's more likely on the Yazaki units.
It might be better in the long run to find another working instrument cluster from the same year car, that's what i resorted to on my last 740GLE. Trouble is they're expensive now, back then i picked up a cluster for £30, now they're 3 times that!
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So true Dave, never reset a VDO whilst on the move and the drive cog gets brittle. The VDO final drives are purely mechanical based on decades of VDO's antiquity which were totally unfit even in their day! A useful guide, in my view, to fixing VDO's can be found on Dave Barton's website at: https://www.240turbo.com/740-odometer-repair.html ,although it could be improved! Bob |
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