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[hancym]

Originally Posted by classicswede

Just want to make sure you are not going to Mark who fits Fema from Turkey

Mark who/where...sorry?

[hancym]

There is a Mark who works at one of the local installers.

[classicswede]

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[Jim314]

Originally Posted by hancym

• I don't buy a car every day so will keep the car for at least 6 or 7 years.
• It may be that we do more miles as the Wifey is from Wales and we live in Norwich.
• I've found a guy to do it properly both cosmetically and technically.
• If I sell the car, I'll remove it all and keep the system to put on the next
• I got the car for at least £2k cheaper than current market prices so I have the money to spend and still not push it over its resale value.
• If petrol goes up and up in price (as it will do as sure as death and taxes) I’m banking on the fact that as LPG is a friendly fuel it will keep its price gap significant enough to make it worth while.
• I’d rather spend the money now as I’m 50 soon and the thought of working another 18 years is scary sh*t so will look to retire asap on little money rather than work the remainder of any good year I have.

Also, my spread sheet based on my actual current MPG says I'll get payback at 2.17 years. I can live with that. A few trips running firends to airports for holiday and the odd trip to France for the weekend and that will pull it in even further.

Sounds to me like you are just determined to do it and are not realistically evaluating the drawbacks and benefits.

Your purchase of the vehicle for £2k cheaper than some estimate of current market price has netted you 'virtual money' (as opposed to actual money). You cannot spend virtual money; any purchase you make is with your real funds which could be used to make your hoped-for retirement more secure.

Spending money on a questionable item will not magically make your retirement possible, but will in fact make it less likely.

[hancym]

If I don't do it 3 years on and I'll just be swearing about the cost of running it and it'll be impossible then to reduce the cost or get the time back that I would have burned getting to my pay back point. I will be faced with one option at that point to reduce cost and that would be to sell the vehicle. If I go ahead with the conversion at least I'm in control

[Jim314]

Originally Posted by hancym

If I don't do it 3 years on and I'll just be swearing about the cost of running it and it'll be impossible then to reduce the cost or get the time back that I would have burned getting to my pay back point. I will be faced with one option at that point to reduce cost and that would be to sell the vehicle. If I go ahead with the conversion at least I'm in control

You could delay a month or two to fully consider the matter. Once you buy the LPG hardware and hand over your vehicle to be converted you are no longer in control. You are in control as long as you have an option to do it or not.

One of the key elements of closing a sale is to convince the prospective buyer that the deal must be entered into immediately or the deal will go away or the benefits will be diminished. We often use that tactic on ourselves to overcome hesitation, even when we are hesitating for sound reasons.

[capt jack]

Phew! That Stateside view is both direct.....and correct!

It's a matter of choice and compromise.

An XC90 T6 is a costly choice of car to run. There's no getting away from that. Big expensive cars are just that, big and expensive.

The fact is that LPG conversions work for people who intend to cover a high annual mileage. It means that they can drive a big thirsty car for a bit less money than would otherwise be the case. Unfortunately, at 10,000 miles a year the sums don't really add up.

I guess we all need to decide on what's more important to us individually - the status of the car we drive or spending less cash? Seems to me that possibly the two aims of 'maximum motor' and 'minimum money' are effectively mutually exclusive.

Good luck

Cheers

Jack

[hancym]

I was looking for a D5 but there are very few in this neck of the woods (plenty of X5s). This 2004 T6 Exec came up with a full pedigree so knowing I wouldn't find another like it in perhaps 6 months I bought it. I paid £2k less than I was expecting to pay for a D5 so I might as well spend the money. If I don't have for the conversion I'll be spending the rest of my ownership hesitating at using the car because it's thirsty. Even a trip to see my relative in the south of Italy will be feasible with a conversion. It just makes the use of the car more flexible. It’s all down to cost of ownership really. Either I pay it up front and have freedom or I pay it as I go along.

[capt jack]

Fair enough - ultimately it's your car, and your money of course, so it's your decision.

Hopefully some of the comments on here will be helpful in getting you where you want to be with the car.

One thing does come through it all and that is the need to make sure the job is done properly. Upper cylinder lubrication is clearly an essential, and I'd suggest that you do need to budget for this.

Please do your research very thoroughly in terms of choosing a convertor. In essence, you'll be giving someone carte-blanche to make some fairly substantial alterations to your car's structure, appearance, fuel, engine and engine management systems. None of these are totally irrevocable, but some would be darned expensive to put back to the original spec.

If you're prepared to travel a bit then I'd recommend Autogas 2000 in Thirsk, North Yorkshire, who did my conversion. They also did some cars for a near neighbour of yours - Elizabeth someone-or-other at Sandringham I believe!

Good luck

Cheers

Jack