D4 VEA 'check engine' light / EGR fault thread

[Arianne]

This is truly the Mother of all threads!

Unbelievable really, will it ever stop?

Arianne

[Fantastic]

Originally Posted by Arianne

This is truly the Mother of all threads!

Unbelievable really, will it ever stop?

Arianne

Definitely right Arrianne. But it is maybe one of the Mother of all Volvo coke ups and will only stop when they properly solve the problem. Difficult to understand why such a highly technical firm could not find this problem during their usual extensive testing, unless they wanted to remove their reliance on Ford & Peugeot (etc group) and rushed the vea out too early?
They will solve the issue, but it does seem to be taking longer than usual.

[spaceman2844]

Originally Posted by Arianne

This is truly the Mother of all threads!

Unbelievable really, will it ever stop?

Arianne

Can't help thinking that the thread might be useful when owners get into a discussion with Volvo UK about getting the EGR issue fixed properly when out of warranty.

[Craigy]

I've finally had mine looked at after posting on here some time ago, turns out my turtle was not cased by the EGR problem but the MAP sensor in the DPF (which also needed cleaning).
I do quite a mix of mileage, some motorway, but some weeks just 8 miles each day to work. This issue appeared after I had been working in the car (very cold out) with the engine running for both warmth and to keep the laptops charged which probably didn't help.

Mine is not over 20000 miles and hasn't (yet) developed the egr problem.

[NigelDay]

Originally Posted by spaceman2844

Can't help thinking that the thread might be useful when owners get into a discussion with Volvo UK about getting the EGR issue fixed properly when out of warranty.

It certainly will be. A very valuable history of fixes on fixes on fixes before the 'final fix'.
Well, at least, we hope it is final !

[GuidoBrunetti]

Originally Posted by Fantastic

Definitely right Arrianne. But it is maybe one of the Mother of all Volvo coke ups and will only stop when they properly solve the problem. Difficult to understand why such a highly technical firm could not find this problem during their usual extensive testing, unless they wanted to remove their reliance on Ford & Peugeot (etc group) and rushed the vea out too early?
They will solve the issue, but it does seem to be taking longer than usual.

Volvo's problem is that the solution space is constrained by the need to conform to Euro 6 emissions levels. That may just make it impossible for them to solve the problem completely and may simply result in what they judge to be an acceptable reduction in frequency.

[Arianne]

Originally Posted by GuidoBrunetti

Volvo's problem is that the solution space is constrained by the need to conform to Euro 6 emissions levels. That may just make it impossible for them to solve the problem completely and may simply result in what they judge to be an acceptable reduction in frequency.

You could be right but I sincerely hope not for all the VEA long term owners.

I find this a nuisance. Let me explain. Mrs A and I have a crucial early appointment on Tuesday morning. The lad will have taken his car off to work, we are depending upon our lame XC60 to hold out until Thursday when it is booked for the remedial work.

At the moment the car is running alright. But you just don't have confidence that the orange warning light won't turn to a red one. We've had the turtle once on Friday evening.

It's not exactly the stuff one would associate with the Volvo brand - uncertainty. It's a Volvo not a Peugeot 407, with all those electrical glitches.

I suspect it's the DNA of modern cars.

Arianne

[roywigzie]

V40 d4: Bought used @ 9000.00 miles. 14 plate.
My first egr valve got replaced @ 12,000 miles.
Going in today for a 2nd replacement @ 20,000 miles
dealer tells me "some have been swapped out 3 / 4 times!"
quite pathetic really.

[GuidoBrunetti]

Originally Posted by Arianne

You could be right but I sincerely hope not for all the VEA long term owners.

I find this a nuisance. Let me explain. Mrs A and I have a crucial early appointment on Tuesday morning. The lad will have taken his car off to work, we are depending upon our lame XC60 to hold out until Thursday when it is booked for the remedial work.

At the moment the car is running alright. But you just don't have confidence that the orange warning light won't turn to a red one. We've had the turtle once on Friday evening.

It's not exactly the stuff one would associate with the Volvo brand - uncertainty. It's a Volvo not a Peugeot 407, with all those electrical glitches.

I suspect it's the DNA of modern cars.

Arianne

I completely understand your dilemma. I read the early part of this thread whilst my own car was on order and dithered about whether to cancel. The more I read about the EGR technique the more I realise how flawed it is in engineering terms.

I know that the Jaguar Ingenium uses AdBlue but I'm not sure about the 3litre V6 which is an older design. Since Euro 6 is very new there could easily be a problem lurking there too because Jaguar waited to the last minute to state that their engines were Euro 6 compliant. If the 3L V6 does not use AdBlue, my understanding is that the only way to achieve Euro 6 is by use of more aggressive EGR. Frying pan? Fire? The same line of argument could also apply to the Euro 6 variant of the Volvo 2.4L D5.

I am committed to my XC60 for 5 years, with a 5 year Volvo warranty, and can only hope that a "good enough" fix is sufficient.

[Clan]

Originally Posted by GuidoBrunetti

I completely understand your dilemma. I read the early part of this thread whilst my own car was on order and dithered about whether to cancel. The more I read about the EGR technique the more I realise how flawed it is in engineering terms.

I know that the Jaguar Ingenium uses AdBlue but I'm not sure about the 3litre V6 which is an older design. Since Euro 6 is very new there could easily be a problem lurking there too because Jaguar waited to the last minute to state that their engines were Euro 6 compliant. If the 3L V6 does not use AdBlue, my understanding is that the only way to achieve Euro 6 is by use of more aggressive EGR. Frying pan? Fire?

I am committed to my XC60 for 5 years, with a 5 year Volvo warranty, and can only hope that a "good enough" fix is sufficient.

Adblue comes to volvo with 2017 model year shortly !

The EGR on the VEA engines is used 65% more of the time than on previous engines ...